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	<title>Comments on: Cindy Sheehan: Our Purpose in Iraq is to Kill Americans</title>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These comments do give me hope that at least a lot of people are still pulling together to support America and our troops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments do give me hope that at least a lot of people are still pulling together to support America and our troops.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very, very interesting...thanks for sharing, I&#039;m putting a link to these comments up on the front page...enjoy your Sunday!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very, very interesting&#8230;thanks for sharing, I&#8217;m putting a link to these comments up on the front page&#8230;enjoy your Sunday!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Rutledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa Rutledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We decided to drive from Austin to Crawford to participate in the Move America Forward tour. It was about a 2 hour drive. 
We arrived at about 1:00pm just as the rally was beginning. The MAF tour started with a Christian prayer, which in these days of political correctness was more than just a little refreshing!
A number of speakers including several state senators and reps spoke to the crowd. Darryl Ancarlo was a crowd-pleaser and was rather potent in his comments. Ted Nugent&#039;s wife was there and spoke briefly about raising money for an awning at Brooks Army Medical Center for the wounded and recovering to be outdoors and sit under (particularly for the burned soldiers who cannot be in direct sunlight), to enable them to go outside. 
One speaker was a father of a soldier in sniper training in Iraq. He said he spoke to his son on the phone, who told him that Sheehan&#039;s comments were actually goading on the insurgents and told his father to send this message: &quot;Cindy Sheehan, Shut up! You are getting us killed!&quot;  The crowd went wild!
About halfway through, a group of Sheehan supporters snuck in and hoisted some large signs in the middle of the crowd. A few minutes of palpable tension rose as the crowd -en-masse- roughed them up a little and literally ran them out of the rally, took their signs which were torn up them up then tossed them on the ground like the trash they were. The Sheehan people were mobbed by the press- which is all they really wanted. We listened to them talk and they bragged about going around the country and doing this at other rallies. Most of the men involved with the group were from Minnesota! Long drive! 
 Welcome to Texas boys - now get out!
Obviously they are &quot;professional&quot; protesters. 
The rally broke up as some of the Gold Star family members demanded that their children&#039;s names be removed from Sheehan&#039;s crosses from her demonstration! The McClennan County Sheriff&#039;s Department escorted the families to retrieve them. 
 
There were probably between 2000 and 3000 pro- Bush supporters who descended on this little one-stoplight town. 
The county sheriff&#039;s department was on hand as well as most of the local police from several surrounding towns. The Crawford town square was packed with pro- Bush / troop supporters. Lots of memorials and memorabilia stands. 
We then drove out of the town to where the Cindy Sheehan camp is set up near the Bush ranch. Based on the media coverage, we believed that this would be a huge camp but when we got there, we saw only between 60 and 75 pro-Sheehan people camped. 
 
It was a filthy crowd of sour-faced, long-haired, bitter-looking people. 
There was a sense of darkness over this crowd that is hard to describe. 
Their camp is just set up on a typical back-country Texas rural road. 
They have their tents set up along a fence line next to a corn field. It literally looked like an old hippy camp!
 
The most amazing thing about the Sheehan crowd, there was not a single American flag on display. 
 
The pro-Bush people were on the North side of the street the Sheehan zoo on the South. Hmmm. North and South again!
 
Our side was rowdy and alive with signs, flags and loud pro-American yelling and taunting. Lot&#039;s of Texans on our side!
 
I made the mistake when we first arrived of trying to walk across the road to get some pictures of their group. When I tried to return to our side a sheriff&#039;s deputy told me that anyone who stepped into the road or crossed from one camp to the other was subject to immediate arrest! 
If I had done anything other than very quickly apologize, feign ignorance and grovel a bit I would have been introduced to the Crawford jail! 
 
All in all, it was an interesting experience. We thought Al Sharpton was going to be there Saturday, but his schedule was changed - Darn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We decided to drive from Austin to Crawford to participate in the Move America Forward tour. It was about a 2 hour drive.<br />
We arrived at about 1:00pm just as the rally was beginning. The MAF tour started with a Christian prayer, which in these days of political correctness was more than just a little refreshing!<br />
A number of speakers including several state senators and reps spoke to the crowd. Darryl Ancarlo was a crowd-pleaser and was rather potent in his comments. Ted Nugent&#8217;s wife was there and spoke briefly about raising money for an awning at Brooks Army Medical Center for the wounded and recovering to be outdoors and sit under (particularly for the burned soldiers who cannot be in direct sunlight), to enable them to go outside.<br />
One speaker was a father of a soldier in sniper training in Iraq. He said he spoke to his son on the phone, who told him that Sheehan&#8217;s comments were actually goading on the insurgents and told his father to send this message: &#8220;Cindy Sheehan, Shut up! You are getting us killed!&#8221;  The crowd went wild!<br />
About halfway through, a group of Sheehan supporters snuck in and hoisted some large signs in the middle of the crowd. A few minutes of palpable tension rose as the crowd -en-masse- roughed them up a little and literally ran them out of the rally, took their signs which were torn up them up then tossed them on the ground like the trash they were. The Sheehan people were mobbed by the press- which is all they really wanted. We listened to them talk and they bragged about going around the country and doing this at other rallies. Most of the men involved with the group were from Minnesota! Long drive!<br />
 Welcome to Texas boys &#8211; now get out!<br />
Obviously they are &#8220;professional&#8221; protesters.<br />
The rally broke up as some of the Gold Star family members demanded that their children&#8217;s names be removed from Sheehan&#8217;s crosses from her demonstration! The McClennan County Sheriff&#8217;s Department escorted the families to retrieve them. </p>
<p>There were probably between 2000 and 3000 pro- Bush supporters who descended on this little one-stoplight town.<br />
The county sheriff&#8217;s department was on hand as well as most of the local police from several surrounding towns. The Crawford town square was packed with pro- Bush / troop supporters. Lots of memorials and memorabilia stands.<br />
We then drove out of the town to where the Cindy Sheehan camp is set up near the Bush ranch. Based on the media coverage, we believed that this would be a huge camp but when we got there, we saw only between 60 and 75 pro-Sheehan people camped. </p>
<p>It was a filthy crowd of sour-faced, long-haired, bitter-looking people.<br />
There was a sense of darkness over this crowd that is hard to describe.<br />
Their camp is just set up on a typical back-country Texas rural road.<br />
They have their tents set up along a fence line next to a corn field. It literally looked like an old hippy camp!</p>
<p>The most amazing thing about the Sheehan crowd, there was not a single American flag on display. </p>
<p>The pro-Bush people were on the North side of the street the Sheehan zoo on the South. Hmmm. North and South again!</p>
<p>Our side was rowdy and alive with signs, flags and loud pro-American yelling and taunting. Lot&#8217;s of Texans on our side!</p>
<p>I made the mistake when we first arrived of trying to walk across the road to get some pictures of their group. When I tried to return to our side a sheriff&#8217;s deputy told me that anyone who stepped into the road or crossed from one camp to the other was subject to immediate arrest!<br />
If I had done anything other than very quickly apologize, feign ignorance and grovel a bit I would have been introduced to the Crawford jail! </p>
<p>All in all, it was an interesting experience. We thought Al Sharpton was going to be there Saturday, but his schedule was changed &#8211; Darn!</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

You missed the perfect ending, in Cindy&#039;s own words:

&quot;How can anyone, anyone in their right minds support this line of reasoning?&quot;

Like a broken clock, she does get it right at least a couple times a day. I think she has worn out her welcome with the vast majority of people, and I think the dems made a huge mistake in not distancing themselves from her by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>You missed the perfect ending, in Cindy&#8217;s own words:</p>
<p>&#8220;How can anyone, anyone in their right minds support this line of reasoning?&#8221;</p>
<p>Like a broken clock, she does get it right at least a couple times a day. I think she has worn out her welcome with the vast majority of people, and I think the dems made a huge mistake in not distancing themselves from her by now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/08/27/cindy-sheehan-our-purpose-in-iraq-is-to-kill-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-4781</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 04:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I&#039;ve considered a trip to Camp Cindy (I know, it&#039;s really Camp Casey, but I hate to see that young man&#039;s name attached to such a spectacle).  If it was October, I probably would&#039;ve gone! (Believe, I&#039;m well aware of how lazy and apathetic that makes me sound)...Yeesh, it&#039;s been hot, though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;ve considered a trip to Camp Cindy (I know, it&#8217;s really Camp Casey, but I hate to see that young man&#8217;s name attached to such a spectacle).  If it was October, I probably would&#8217;ve gone! (Believe, I&#8217;m well aware of how lazy and apathetic that makes me sound)&#8230;Yeesh, it&#8217;s been hot, though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Rutledge</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/08/27/cindy-sheehan-our-purpose-in-iraq-is-to-kill-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-4779</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Rutledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 04:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
I am in Austin too.
Should&#039;a come along for the fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
I am in Austin too.<br />
Should&#8217;a come along for the fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 04:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa, yes, it was blazing today here in Austin, too; I hid indoors most of the day.  Of course, I&#039;m sure all of us would be interested in hearing more about your day in Crawford, and seeing the pictures, too, so please, share more when you get a chance!  Have a great one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa, yes, it was blazing today here in Austin, too; I hid indoors most of the day.  Of course, I&#8217;m sure all of us would be interested in hearing more about your day in Crawford, and seeing the pictures, too, so please, share more when you get a chance!  Have a great one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Rutledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa Rutledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just got back from Crawford. Am too pooped to say much, but I have pics of the Move America Forward &quot;You Don&#039;t Speak For Me, Cindy&quot; tour.
It was heart warming, to see all the people out there that support our troops and our president. We went to &quot;Camp Casey&quot; - after being at the Move America Forward Rally and seeing the red white and blue displayed all over - the contrast was startling! At the Sheehan &quot;camp&quot; there was NOT ONE AMERICAN FLAG TO BE SEEN!
What a sad thing to see.
Will write more later.
It was over 100 degrees and hotter&#039;n hades out there! I need a shower!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just got back from Crawford. Am too pooped to say much, but I have pics of the Move America Forward &#8220;You Don&#8217;t Speak For Me, Cindy&#8221; tour.<br />
It was heart warming, to see all the people out there that support our troops and our president. We went to &#8220;Camp Casey&#8221; &#8211; after being at the Move America Forward Rally and seeing the red white and blue displayed all over &#8211; the contrast was startling! At the Sheehan &#8220;camp&#8221; there was NOT ONE AMERICAN FLAG TO BE SEEN!<br />
What a sad thing to see.<br />
Will write more later.<br />
It was over 100 degrees and hotter&#8217;n hades out there! I need a shower!</p>
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