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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/13/identity-politics-and-the-death-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-5537</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of polls related to the political fallout of Katrina -- Anklebiting Pundits has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anklebitingpundits.com/index.php?name=News&amp;file=article&amp;sid=2303&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some Gallup results&lt;/a&gt; that you probably won&#039;t read about in the New York Times.

Highlights -- on &#039;Initial Response&#039; to the disaster, Bush personally rates substantially higher than every other option on the percentage of respondents who rated his response &quot;good&quot;.  Bush&#039;s &#039;job approval&#039; up 6% in the last month. And they asked specifically about the &quot;blame game&quot; but I&#039;ll let you follow the link for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of polls related to the political fallout of Katrina &#8212; Anklebiting Pundits has <a href="http://www.anklebitingpundits.com/index.php?name=News&amp;file=article&amp;sid=2303" rel="nofollow">some Gallup results</a> that you probably won&#8217;t read about in the New York Times.</p>
<p>Highlights &#8212; on &#8216;Initial Response&#8217; to the disaster, Bush personally rates substantially higher than every other option on the percentage of respondents who rated his response &#8220;good&#8221;.  Bush&#8217;s &#8216;job approval&#8217; up 6% in the last month. And they asked specifically about the &#8220;blame game&#8221; but I&#8217;ll let you follow the link for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/13/identity-politics-and-the-death-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-5532</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.. I just always wondered how, with her background and in the role of Secretary of State, she&#039;d garner enough domestic policy cred to get there -- ironically, those who were pushing the &quot;Condi buys shoes&quot; meme last week practically dragged her into this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.. I just always wondered how, with her background and in the role of Secretary of State, she&#8217;d garner enough domestic policy cred to get there &#8212; ironically, those who were pushing the &#8220;Condi buys shoes&#8221; meme last week practically dragged her into this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean P, exactly...those who believe Bush doesn&#039;t care about blacks would also answer yes if the question was &quot;Do you believe George Bush is evil incarnate?&quot;  ...and Clint, I still maintain, if Condi chooses to run, she&#039;s instantly a contender...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean P, exactly&#8230;those who believe Bush doesn&#8217;t care about blacks would also answer yes if the question was &#8220;Do you believe George Bush is evil incarnate?&#8221;  &#8230;and Clint, I still maintain, if Condi chooses to run, she&#8217;s instantly a contender&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean P</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/13/identity-politics-and-the-death-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-5528</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you take a &quot;glass is half full&quot; approach, what this poll means is that, among a group of voters that support the Democratic Party ninety per cent of the time, just 40% tow the Democratic Party line on this issue. What this poll really menas is that means half of all black Democratic voters believe that Howard Dean, George Stephanappolus, et al. are full of it when they blame racism for the New Orleans Thunderdome fracas or, at a minimum, have serious doubts about the official party line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you take a &#8220;glass is half full&#8221; approach, what this poll means is that, among a group of voters that support the Democratic Party ninety per cent of the time, just 40% tow the Democratic Party line on this issue. What this poll really menas is that means half of all black Democratic voters believe that Howard Dean, George Stephanappolus, et al. are full of it when they blame racism for the New Orleans Thunderdome fracas or, at a minimum, have serious doubts about the official party line.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to inject partisan politics into this... but this being the Decion &#039;08 site...

That&#039;s a damn fine interview statement (though I&#039;d love to see the video) -- and this is a really good &lt;b&gt;domestic&lt;/b&gt; issue for Condi to take point on.  It&#039;s one where we&#039;d expect her to be personally angry and it&#039;s one where she&#039;s preaching to a large majority of people who agree with her.  The Dems have gone way out on a limb here, and she&#039;s just the one to saw it off for them -- and gain domestic policy credibility while she&#039;s doing it.  Condi &#039;08?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to inject partisan politics into this&#8230; but this being the Decion &#8217;08 site&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a damn fine interview statement (though I&#8217;d love to see the video) &#8212; and this is a really good <b>domestic</b> issue for Condi to take point on.  It&#8217;s one where we&#8217;d expect her to be personally angry and it&#8217;s one where she&#8217;s preaching to a large majority of people who agree with her.  The Dems have gone way out on a limb here, and she&#8217;s just the one to saw it off for them &#8212; and gain domestic policy credibility while she&#8217;s doing it.  Condi &#8217;08?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bullock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bullock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an excellent, very recent and very long &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2005/53036.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interview&lt;/a&gt;, conducted by the editors of &lt;i&gt;The New York Times&lt;/i&gt;, with Condoleezza Rice that I just saw today. She was asked about this issue. She spoke eloquently and at length.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;QUESTION: Why is it, do you think, that 77 percent of black people (inaudible) Kanye West that George Bush doesn&#039;t care about black people? 

SECRETARY RICE: Probably because they&#039;ve heard it from people who weren&#039;t questioned about the assumptions there. Look, I find it very strange to think that people would think the President of the United States would sit deciding who ought to be helped on the basis of color, most especially this President. &lt;b&gt;It&#039;s just -- it&#039;s (a) not true and it&#039;s (b) poisonous that somebody would say that. And I hope that people would be challenged on the assumption if they&#039;re going to say it. Now, what evidence is there that this is the case? Why would you say such a thing? What makes you think so?&lt;/b&gt; Because you have a President who has cared about minority home ownership. You have a President who has cared about community colleges. You have a President who has increased funding for historically black colleges. You have a President who, under the No Child Left Behind, has increased federal funding dramatically and insisted on standards for children. And the kids who do, by the way, get warehoused and where there’s a gulf between third grade reading and third grade -- being in third grade and being able to read at third grade, a lot of those are minority kids. 

So I don&#039;t believe it. I don&#039;t know why people say it. And I would hope that people would seriously examine their assumptions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Poisonous.&quot; Well said, Condi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an excellent, very recent and very long <a href="http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2005/53036.htm" rel="nofollow">interview</a>, conducted by the editors of <i>The New York Times</i>, with Condoleezza Rice that I just saw today. She was asked about this issue. She spoke eloquently and at length.  </p>
<blockquote><p>QUESTION: Why is it, do you think, that 77 percent of black people (inaudible) Kanye West that George Bush doesn&#8217;t care about black people? </p>
<p>SECRETARY RICE: Probably because they&#8217;ve heard it from people who weren&#8217;t questioned about the assumptions there. Look, I find it very strange to think that people would think the President of the United States would sit deciding who ought to be helped on the basis of color, most especially this President. <b>It&#8217;s just &#8212; it&#8217;s (a) not true and it&#8217;s (b) poisonous that somebody would say that. And I hope that people would be challenged on the assumption if they&#8217;re going to say it. Now, what evidence is there that this is the case? Why would you say such a thing? What makes you think so?</b> Because you have a President who has cared about minority home ownership. You have a President who has cared about community colleges. You have a President who has increased funding for historically black colleges. You have a President who, under the No Child Left Behind, has increased federal funding dramatically and insisted on standards for children. And the kids who do, by the way, get warehoused and where there’s a gulf between third grade reading and third grade &#8212; being in third grade and being able to read at third grade, a lot of those are minority kids. </p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t believe it. I don&#8217;t know why people say it. And I would hope that people would seriously examine their assumptions.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Poisonous.&#8221; Well said, Condi.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(shameless self-promotion alert)

It&#039;s like I &lt;a href=&quot;http://rightquestion.blogspot.com/2005/09/howard-dean-and-politics-of-personal.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote&lt;/a&gt; earlier today, in the Democratic Party of Howard Dean, everything political is personal -- it&#039;s not that my opponent has a different idea how to achieve our common goals, it&#039;s that he hates puppies and motherhood:
&lt;blockquote&gt;John Roberts doesn&#039;t have a different view of the Constitutional separation of powers -- he doesn&#039;t &quot;love the American people&quot;. John Ashcroft doesn&#039;t have different ideas of how to keep America safe, he&#039;s &quot;not a patriot&quot;, &quot;a descendant of Joe McCarthy&quot;. Republicans don&#039;t have different ideas for how to make America better -- they are evil and I hate them!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

(end of shameless self promotion alert)

And this is the chairman of the D.N.C. -- the chief spokesman for the Democratic Party.

Even so, I suspect if the poll question had been more blatantly phrased (&quot;Is President Bush a racist?&quot;) the number would have fallen to the hard-core 15% who are represented by MoveOn.  As phrased, the question could be read as whether the President cares about black people &lt;b&gt;as such&lt;/b&gt; -- which could be answered &quot;no&quot; with a weaker implication than the other would carry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(shameless self-promotion alert)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like I <a href="http://rightquestion.blogspot.com/2005/09/howard-dean-and-politics-of-personal.html" rel="nofollow">wrote</a> earlier today, in the Democratic Party of Howard Dean, everything political is personal &#8212; it&#8217;s not that my opponent has a different idea how to achieve our common goals, it&#8217;s that he hates puppies and motherhood:</p>
<blockquote><p>John Roberts doesn&#8217;t have a different view of the Constitutional separation of powers &#8212; he doesn&#8217;t &#8220;love the American people&#8221;. John Ashcroft doesn&#8217;t have different ideas of how to keep America safe, he&#8217;s &#8220;not a patriot&#8221;, &#8220;a descendant of Joe McCarthy&#8221;. Republicans don&#8217;t have different ideas for how to make America better &#8212; they are evil and I hate them!</p></blockquote>
<p>(end of shameless self promotion alert)</p>
<p>And this is the chairman of the D.N.C. &#8212; the chief spokesman for the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>Even so, I suspect if the poll question had been more blatantly phrased (&#8220;Is President Bush a racist?&#8221;) the number would have fallen to the hard-core 15% who are represented by MoveOn.  As phrased, the question could be read as whether the President cares about black people <b>as such</b> &#8212; which could be answered &#8220;no&#8221; with a weaker implication than the other would carry.</p>
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