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		<title>By: louielouie</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/15/islam-as-a-mirror/comment-page-1/#comment-5591</link>
		<dc:creator>louielouie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good comment clint.  i liked the way you transferred/tied-in from one item to the next.


here&#039;s a thought.  instead of this guy holding up a mirror for it to tell us what we are.  why not get islam to hold a mirror up to see itself?.........nnnaaaaaaahhhhhhh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good comment clint.  i liked the way you transferred/tied-in from one item to the next.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s a thought.  instead of this guy holding up a mirror for it to tell us what we are.  why not get islam to hold a mirror up to see itself?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;nnnaaaaaaahhhhhhh</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/15/islam-as-a-mirror/comment-page-1/#comment-5581</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article.

I&#039;d suggest that there&#039;s &lt;b&gt;some&lt;/b&gt; truth to at least four of the items, but that they are all so interconnected that it&#039;s hard to imagine an attempt to solve one that wouldn&#039;t also affect others...

For example, modernizing and freeing a muslim, arab state (like, oh, Iraq) will tend to naturally lead to a less medieval arabic culture in that country (addressing #4), a less medieval culture of Islam in that country (addressing #2) resulting in less fundamentalist Islamism in that country (addressing #3), a more gradual societal shift into modernity, unlike the jarring shock experienced by immigration (addressing #6) and more trust of America&#039;s motives in the region (addressing #5).   So, it&#039;s not really important which of these factors is the most important -- we can work on all of them at once.  (And, no, washing our hands of the region is not a good way to address #5.)

In fact, perhaps it&#039;s just watching Galloway spew filth last night -- but it occurs to me that the only group that should see no good at all coming from the Iraq war would be those unreformed Stalinists like Galloway who hold that #1 is the primary cause and that the violent suppression of religion by neo-Stalinist Baathists is the best cure for what ails the Middle East.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest that there&#8217;s <b>some</b> truth to at least four of the items, but that they are all so interconnected that it&#8217;s hard to imagine an attempt to solve one that wouldn&#8217;t also affect others&#8230;</p>
<p>For example, modernizing and freeing a muslim, arab state (like, oh, Iraq) will tend to naturally lead to a less medieval arabic culture in that country (addressing #4), a less medieval culture of Islam in that country (addressing #2) resulting in less fundamentalist Islamism in that country (addressing #3), a more gradual societal shift into modernity, unlike the jarring shock experienced by immigration (addressing #6) and more trust of America&#8217;s motives in the region (addressing #5).   So, it&#8217;s not really important which of these factors is the most important &#8212; we can work on all of them at once.  (And, no, washing our hands of the region is not a good way to address #5.)</p>
<p>In fact, perhaps it&#8217;s just watching Galloway spew filth last night &#8212; but it occurs to me that the only group that should see no good at all coming from the Iraq war would be those unreformed Stalinists like Galloway who hold that #1 is the primary cause and that the violent suppression of religion by neo-Stalinist Baathists is the best cure for what ails the Middle East.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/15/islam-as-a-mirror/comment-page-1/#comment-5579</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I like the concept, but the execution was a little lacking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I like the concept, but the execution was a little lacking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: louielouie</title>
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		<dc:creator>louielouie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had my biggest problem with item #2.
it doesn&#039;t go into any type of detail of the differences in/of islam.  from the reactionary wahabbi to the docile sufi.
islam had its&#039; reformation, unlike christianity with it&#039;s words, and selected the sword.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had my biggest problem with item #2.<br />
it doesn&#8217;t go into any type of detail of the differences in/of islam.  from the reactionary wahabbi to the docile sufi.<br />
islam had its&#8217; reformation, unlike christianity with it&#8217;s words, and selected the sword.</p>
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