Comments on: Hillary Candidacy Gains Support

By: The Bij

The Bij — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:27:58 +0000

**The Bij spits out his Cheerio’s all over the keyboard in laughter**

By: Ryan Bonneville

Ryan Bonneville — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:44:34 +0000

I would vote for zombie FDR. He would never veto “Brrrrraaaaaaaiiiinnnnnsssss.”

By: The Bij

The Bij — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 05:12:08 +0000

Add to the fact that the Republican opponent will probably be the most galvinizing opponent that could possible be unless FDR were to rise from the dead to run for a fifth term.

By: The Bij

The Bij — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 05:09:57 +0000

Normally I would agree that a moderate Republican does not have shot. But in todays presidential races money is the bottom line. Allen, Brownback, Huckabee, etc… will be out of the race by the NH primary. The frenetic pace of the 2008 primary season will leave no room for insurgencies. Giuliani and McCain will be setting pretty with massive war chests. Giuliani may break the fundraising record by a long shot. McCain will have his political allies (Graham and Sandford) campaigning hard for him in SC. People can speculate all they want, but the cold hard fact is that the money and connections will do all of the talking, as money and connections usually do.

By: peter

peter — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:59:22 +0000

Well, I can’t say that I stay up nights worrying about who the GOP will nominate, but I do hope that they pick someone who is intelligent, far-sighted, and independent minded — after all, who knows, they may win again –

By: Ryan Bonneville

Ryan Bonneville — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:54:29 +0000

I have similar worries, Peter, although I’m not sure yours are “worries”. The GOP is dangerously close to selling out to its own moonbat elements, and I fear that solid winners like McCain and Giuliani will be overshadowed (or smeared out of existence) by kowtowing party line nincompoops like George Allen. In fact, not since Dukakis have I found a possible presidential candidate such an extreme bore… and I know I’m not alone. The 2008 primaries will tell us all we need to know about how sane the GOP is.

By: peter

peter — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:04:51 +0000

Of course, Nelson Rockefeller was also a Republican governor of New York for many years. Since New York State is split between a heavily Democratic NYC and a GOP-leaning upstate, it has always been congenial to moderate Republicans. However, I think that today’s Republican party is so dominated by the religious right and the hard right that it will never nominate a moderate Republican again for years to come.

And I’m not so sure about the great minds being on the Republican side — and I’ll do my best to avoid cheap shots, like if you guys are so bright how come your leader is so (at this point I refrain myself) –

By: The Bij

The Bij — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:48:59 +0000

Thanks Peter and louielouie for your responses. Everytime that I am rewarded with great politcal discussion like the one we’re having here, I am reminded why I am a Republican. The great minds are on this side of the fence these days.

The point that you brougth up abut New Yorkers preferring Hillary in the Senate and Rudy in a more executive leadership position rings true to me. It too makes me wonder why Billlary is even running for the Senate again in 2006. Nothing good can come of it. Seems to me that New Yorkers will punish her for it if Rudy gets the nomination. For those that think it can’t happen: Pataki is the reigning 3 term governor of NY, Rudy won, Bloomberg will win again in a landslide, and D’Amato was a 3 term Sentaor as well. New York can drop for the right Republican. Rudy is that kind of candidate.

You know he’s running when polls show he is the only one who would defeat Spitzer for governor and he still won’t jump in that race. Rudy has his eyes on the prize. A very high ranking Republican in IA told me last week that he knows personally of Giuliani 2008 strategy sessions that began as soon as the 2004 race was over. The ball has been rolling since 12-2004 for Rudy. Does anyone want to bet against a man like him with that kind of head start?

By: Sean P

Sean P — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 01:30:54 +0000

louielouie: I can see the logic in that.

I can’t speak for everyone, but I never throught Rudy would make a particularly good Senator. Senators pass riders, form coalitions, attend comittee hearings, vote for laws before they vote against them, and talk, talk, talk. Rudy is a man of action and would have been ill suited for the wonkish role the Senate plays in our government. However, as an executive he has been enormously successful, and will be again, if he gets the nod.

Now, personally I would have voted for Rudy in 2000 had he gone the distance against Hillary (and if I lived in NY, not CA), but I can see why other voters would have made the decision based on the type of job the two were running for.

By: louielouie

louielouie — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:55:39 +0000

to the bij,
one item that i have seen in the past, and your link contained it.
when ny voters were asked about a senatorial favorite, hillary outpolled rudy by ten points. when the same poll asked about potus preference the numbers reversed. something is afoot.