Comments on: The Summer of Our Discontent Rolls Into Fall http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: HoldYerNose http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-6137 HoldYerNose Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:22:07 +0000 http://decision08.net/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/#comment-6137 It really serves no purpose but to keep a dying flame from going out. It's just "more of the same". The <i>Newsweek</i> article on the alledged Koran abuse was for the same puropse. They're unhappy with the level of indignance they elicited in the first round, so they try to raise more ire. These are the same people who never say a word about the abuse suffered by the Iraqis at the hands of their own citizens. And 30 years later they're still silent about the torture Vietnam vets suffered at the hands of their enemy. Hypocrisy at it's best. None of us thought the abuse was right, but some of us accept that addressing errors in the system and punishing those who committed it was a healthy and correct approach. And then some of us just can't "MoveOn". It really serves no purpose but to keep a dying flame from going out. It’s just “more of the same”. The Newsweek article on the alledged Koran abuse was for the same puropse. They’re unhappy with the level of indignance they elicited in the first round, so they try to raise more ire. These are the same people who never say a word about the abuse suffered by the Iraqis at the hands of their own citizens. And 30 years later they’re still silent about the torture Vietnam vets suffered at the hands of their enemy. Hypocrisy at it’s best.

None of us thought the abuse was right, but some of us accept that addressing errors in the system and punishing those who committed it was a healthy and correct approach. And then some of us just can’t “MoveOn”.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-6129 Mark Fri, 30 Sep 2005 01:05:43 +0000 http://decision08.net/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/#comment-6129 Knemon, it's not necessarily that I think the ACLU's position is wrong - but certainly the quote from the Executive Director puts their motives well into the dubious camp... Knemon, it’s not necessarily that I think the ACLU’s position is wrong – but certainly the quote from the Executive Director puts their motives well into the dubious camp…

]]> By: Knemon http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-6118 Knemon Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:13:11 +0000 http://decision08.net/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/#comment-6118 I'm actually with the ALCU on this one (eew) ... if we can't take the heat, maybe we should've stayed out of the kitchen. If this really will inflame insurgent/jihadist sentiment, that might be reason to keep it under wraps. But that sentiment looks pretty f'in inflamed at the moment. How bad can it be? It's like Stephen King's theory of horror: no matter what the monster looks like when it's finally revealed, audiences are actually relieved, not horrified, to see it. "Oh, a 10 foot bug - that's bad, but imagine if it were a 100 footer!" That is to say, what's on these tapes can't be worse than our imagination of it. Unless it is. Which we probably should know, one way or the other. I’m actually with the ALCU on this one (eew) … if we can’t take the heat, maybe we should’ve stayed out of the kitchen.

If this really will inflame insurgent/jihadist sentiment, that might be reason to keep it under wraps. But that sentiment looks pretty f’in inflamed at the moment.

How bad can it be? It’s like Stephen King’s theory of horror: no matter what the monster looks like when it’s finally revealed, audiences are actually relieved, not horrified, to see it. “Oh, a 10 foot bug – that’s bad, but imagine if it were a 100 footer!”
That is to say, what’s on these tapes can’t be worse than our imagination of it. Unless it is. Which we probably should know, one way or the other.

]]> By: AcademicElephant http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-6108 AcademicElephant Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:59:13 +0000 http://decision08.net/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/#comment-6108 I just don't understand it--the senior senator from MA waved around a Washington Post article in the Armed Services committee testimony today and demanded to know how posting photos of dead insurgents expressed "our respect for those we are fighting" and "our respect for other cultures." On the other hand, the ACLU demands the publication of prisoner photos in the name of freedom. Both statement seem about equally wrong-headed and opportunistic to me. I guess my taste in pictures runs in a different vein. I just don’t understand it–the senior senator from MA waved around a Washington Post article in the Armed Services committee testimony today and demanded to know how posting photos of dead insurgents expressed “our respect for those we are fighting” and “our respect for other cultures.” On the other hand, the ACLU demands the publication of prisoner photos in the name of freedom. Both statement seem about equally wrong-headed and opportunistic to me.

I guess my taste in pictures runs in a different vein.

]]> By: Jim Voigt http://informedspeculation.com/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-6107 Jim Voigt Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:58:04 +0000 http://decision08.net/2005/09/29/the-summer-of-our-discontent-rolls-into-fall/#comment-6107 "no one wants to see what’s on the photos or videos" Then how, exactly, did the ACLU establish standing to sue? “no one wants to see what’s on the photos or videos”

Then how, exactly, did the ACLU establish standing to sue?

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