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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; IT&#8217;S SAMUEL ALITO</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/10/31/top-ten-kos-kidz-reactions-to-the-alito-nomination/comment-page-2/#comment-316215</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; IT&#8217;S SAMUEL ALITO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coffey has the Top Ten Kos Kidz Reactions to the Alito Nomination. Emily Zanotti&#8217;s parody isn&#8217;t far off the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JiggyWittit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiggyWittit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kewl blog you got goin on up here.
Peace, JiggyWittit</description>
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Peace, JiggyWittit</p>
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		<title>By: TreeFrog</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/10/31/top-ten-kos-kidz-reactions-to-the-alito-nomination/comment-page-2/#comment-13115</link>
		<dc:creator>TreeFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific Blog you have. Peace Out.
TreeFrog</description>
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TreeFrog</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Pavian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Pavian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 06:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, but I feel much better now. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, but I feel much better now. <img src='http://informedspeculation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 04:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ghost, one thing I&#039;ve always tried to do is draw a distinction between liberal and progressive - a liberal would like, say, Kevin Drum and Matthew Yglesias, watch the West Wing, read Al Franken and TNR and the New Yorker; a progressive, Kos and Democratic Underground, read the Nation and Chomsky, and never, ever think of watching corporate television b.s. - it&#039;s a cartoon, I know, but an accurate one, I think.

That&#039;s why I say Kos is typical of &#039;progressive&#039; thought - notice here I&#039;m not talking about truly progressive thought, but of the thought of self-described &#039;progressives&#039; - it&#039;s a bit of a fine point, but a real distinction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ghost, one thing I&#8217;ve always tried to do is draw a distinction between liberal and progressive &#8211; a liberal would like, say, Kevin Drum and Matthew Yglesias, watch the West Wing, read Al Franken and TNR and the New Yorker; a progressive, Kos and Democratic Underground, read the Nation and Chomsky, and never, ever think of watching corporate television b.s. &#8211; it&#8217;s a cartoon, I know, but an accurate one, I think.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I say Kos is typical of &#8216;progressive&#8217; thought &#8211; notice here I&#8217;m not talking about truly progressive thought, but of the thought of self-described &#8216;progressives&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s a bit of a fine point, but a real distinction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 02:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark- going back to something you pointed out earlier- about KOS&#039; million visitors a day-- to the site-- and how that is somehow representative of a good portion of &quot;progressive&quot; thought these days... I disagree. You may have some other statistics that I&#039;m not aware of.. but do you realize how many sites (especially Conservative) have links to KOS? Hell, most of the links are from right-leaning sites like this one.. pointing out some silly comment on KOS (with a link to their site). That has to count for a large portion of their &quot;visitors&quot; (not including visitors who post.. just ones who get linked there). I&#039;ve never posted there simply because it&#039;s too much to take in at once.. if nothing else. Plus you rarely find anything of substance there (on the threads- not the whole site)... just random two-lines of bitching (this goes for some popular right-wing sites as well). I think it&#039;s safe to say you&#039;ve got a couple of wackos or so in here..

You also mention how a few senators post there-- that seems even easier to explain: large # of hits + democrat site=large # potential votes... after all, we are talking about politicians here. Anyway, I&#039;m not trying to explain away the wackos.. just maybe the reason why KOS gets so many hits. You&#039;ve probably heard all of this before, but it would be a humurous/interesting poll (if it weren&#039;t impossible to tally) to see if they actually have MORE conservative hits than liberal (like people from this site going to laugh at/get fired up by their comments). I know I sometimes visit the wacko right-wing sites for the same reason.... (except this one of course, ha ha).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark- going back to something you pointed out earlier- about KOS&#8217; million visitors a day&#8211; to the site&#8211; and how that is somehow representative of a good portion of &#8220;progressive&#8221; thought these days&#8230; I disagree. You may have some other statistics that I&#8217;m not aware of.. but do you realize how many sites (especially Conservative) have links to KOS? Hell, most of the links are from right-leaning sites like this one.. pointing out some silly comment on KOS (with a link to their site). That has to count for a large portion of their &#8220;visitors&#8221; (not including visitors who post.. just ones who get linked there). I&#8217;ve never posted there simply because it&#8217;s too much to take in at once.. if nothing else. Plus you rarely find anything of substance there (on the threads- not the whole site)&#8230; just random two-lines of bitching (this goes for some popular right-wing sites as well). I think it&#8217;s safe to say you&#8217;ve got a couple of wackos or so in here..</p>
<p>You also mention how a few senators post there&#8211; that seems even easier to explain: large # of hits + democrat site=large # potential votes&#8230; after all, we are talking about politicians here. Anyway, I&#8217;m not trying to explain away the wackos.. just maybe the reason why KOS gets so many hits. You&#8217;ve probably heard all of this before, but it would be a humurous/interesting poll (if it weren&#8217;t impossible to tally) to see if they actually have MORE conservative hits than liberal (like people from this site going to laugh at/get fired up by their comments). I know I sometimes visit the wacko right-wing sites for the same reason&#8230;. (except this one of course, ha ha).</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark.. I&#039;ll keep that in mind.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/10/31/top-ten-kos-kidz-reactions-to-the-alito-nomination/comment-page-2/#comment-7538</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 01:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ghost, I actually agree with most of what you say...and believe me, we welcome moderate (and left-wing) voices here...I&#039;ve been accused of moderation myself a time or two...</description>
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		<title>By: Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, that&#039;s the point, isn&#039;t it? One lunatic fringe begets the other. I&#039;ve become aware of this based on my own experiences (or &quot;waffling&quot; for all you Kerry-lovers) in political debate. When I hear some of the ridiculous/naive comments coming from the left, (like blaming Bush for the hurricane).. I get so annoyed/insulted that I become angry right-wing guy for the day... defending principles and logic that I&#039;m not even 100% behind...but because it&#039;s at least more thought out/more rational than knee-jerk &quot;republicans are just evil&quot; conspiracy theories. When I hear some of the semi-fascist/backward comments from the right (mainly the religious right).. I blow a fuse, overreact and start lumping them in with Iran.. then suggest they move there, since their ideas for curing society&#039;s &quot;ills&quot; seem to fit in better in that country than ours. The end result is that both parties disgust me.

Point being, it&#039;s the fringe of both sides that don&#039;t belong here... but then again, they do. In America, everyone belongs... and the rest of us have to live with it... because that&#039;s the whole point of &quot;freedom&quot;.  It&#039;s ironic that we are this big &quot;melting pot&quot; of divergent views, but the way our system is set up.. you are (more or less) forced to pick one of two sides. Hence the extremists being an embarassment for both parties. They make the left look weak and the right look dumb. Everyone gets lumped in because adding a 3rd would break up one big party and the remaining, united party would always win. Two parties means all we do is go back and forth every decade or so. Balance is only achieved after one party has been in power too long, public opinion changes, and the other party takes over and reverses half the sh#t the other party passed. If I suggest that America look to some (not all) of the older/wiser multi-party (European) democracies for guidance.. some sanctimonius xenophobe in here is going to bite my head off and call me &quot;French-fry&quot; or some moronic sh#t.

Does being a centrist mean that I&#039;m just a waffler who can&#039;t make up his mind? To some small extent, maybe... but many of the politicians labeled as wafflers always came across to me as more intelligent and thoughtful (and barely heard over the noise in times when both parties are screaming at each other). Then again, quiet and reflective common sense doesn&#039;t make the news. To clarify (for example), I beleive we shouldn&#039;t be legislating morality but we shouldn&#039;t be stripping it away either. Leave the pledge and Christmas alone but no new faith-based science in public schools. Whatever happened to church? This is where faith was traditionally taught. School curriculum is the place for the &quot;known&quot; world... not one group&#039;s beliefs. However, if some kids want to pray in school or have christian-based clubs in school... they should have every right to. If you don&#039;t like it, turn the channel. However, the same goes for porn and adult video games. With both parties trying to legislate morality (or lack therof), we are nitpicking this country to death... just leave it the way it is.. no new laws (ah.. the libertarian side is coming out). If everyone just left everyone else the f@%k alone.. we&#039;d all get along better. So now we have a more balanced supreme court... good. But some conservatives won&#039;t be happy until it&#039;s ALL in their corner. Forget balance, they are actually praying for Stevens or Ginsberg to die! I&#039;m just trying to put all the fake shock over Kos comments in perspective. Are you really suprised when you see similar rhetoric coming from the right-wing? (just look at the gleeful agitator on the website above www.rightwingnation.com ...so frothing and angry- you&#039;d think his wife left him for a muslim hippy). Doesn&#039;t matter who starts it.. one begets the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, that&#8217;s the point, isn&#8217;t it? One lunatic fringe begets the other. I&#8217;ve become aware of this based on my own experiences (or &#8220;waffling&#8221; for all you Kerry-lovers) in political debate. When I hear some of the ridiculous/naive comments coming from the left, (like blaming Bush for the hurricane).. I get so annoyed/insulted that I become angry right-wing guy for the day&#8230; defending principles and logic that I&#8217;m not even 100% behind&#8230;but because it&#8217;s at least more thought out/more rational than knee-jerk &#8220;republicans are just evil&#8221; conspiracy theories. When I hear some of the semi-fascist/backward comments from the right (mainly the religious right).. I blow a fuse, overreact and start lumping them in with Iran.. then suggest they move there, since their ideas for curing society&#8217;s &#8220;ills&#8221; seem to fit in better in that country than ours. The end result is that both parties disgust me.</p>
<p>Point being, it&#8217;s the fringe of both sides that don&#8217;t belong here&#8230; but then again, they do. In America, everyone belongs&#8230; and the rest of us have to live with it&#8230; because that&#8217;s the whole point of &#8220;freedom&#8221;.  It&#8217;s ironic that we are this big &#8220;melting pot&#8221; of divergent views, but the way our system is set up.. you are (more or less) forced to pick one of two sides. Hence the extremists being an embarassment for both parties. They make the left look weak and the right look dumb. Everyone gets lumped in because adding a 3rd would break up one big party and the remaining, united party would always win. Two parties means all we do is go back and forth every decade or so. Balance is only achieved after one party has been in power too long, public opinion changes, and the other party takes over and reverses half the sh#t the other party passed. If I suggest that America look to some (not all) of the older/wiser multi-party (European) democracies for guidance.. some sanctimonius xenophobe in here is going to bite my head off and call me &#8220;French-fry&#8221; or some moronic sh#t.</p>
<p>Does being a centrist mean that I&#8217;m just a waffler who can&#8217;t make up his mind? To some small extent, maybe&#8230; but many of the politicians labeled as wafflers always came across to me as more intelligent and thoughtful (and barely heard over the noise in times when both parties are screaming at each other). Then again, quiet and reflective common sense doesn&#8217;t make the news. To clarify (for example), I beleive we shouldn&#8217;t be legislating morality but we shouldn&#8217;t be stripping it away either. Leave the pledge and Christmas alone but no new faith-based science in public schools. Whatever happened to church? This is where faith was traditionally taught. School curriculum is the place for the &#8220;known&#8221; world&#8230; not one group&#8217;s beliefs. However, if some kids want to pray in school or have christian-based clubs in school&#8230; they should have every right to. If you don&#8217;t like it, turn the channel. However, the same goes for porn and adult video games. With both parties trying to legislate morality (or lack therof), we are nitpicking this country to death&#8230; just leave it the way it is.. no new laws (ah.. the libertarian side is coming out). If everyone just left everyone else the f@%k alone.. we&#8217;d all get along better. So now we have a more balanced supreme court&#8230; good. But some conservatives won&#8217;t be happy until it&#8217;s ALL in their corner. Forget balance, they are actually praying for Stevens or Ginsberg to die! I&#8217;m just trying to put all the fake shock over Kos comments in perspective. Are you really suprised when you see similar rhetoric coming from the right-wing? (just look at the gleeful agitator on the website above <a href="http://www.rightwingnation.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rightwingnation.com</a> &#8230;so frothing and angry- you&#8217;d think his wife left him for a muslim hippy). Doesn&#8217;t matter who starts it.. one begets the other.</p>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingnation.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Daily Kooks!</dc:creator>
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