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	<title>Comments on: Weekly Jackass Number Fifty-One: Ted Kennedy</title>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/12/04/weekly-jackass-number-fifty-one-ted-kennedy/comment-page-2/#comment-23619</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 15:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted Kennedy is proposing legislation to make obsolete military bases like Fort Devens into permanant housing for the nation&#039;s disabled war veterans and their families. It is an example of the kind of thing the legislature should be focusing on instead of ignoring, since the military is the tool the legislature uses when our freedoms are threatened.                                                         When they decided to spin the wheel and it landed on Iraq (not even a logical  first choice) they knew in advance there could be thousands of dead and wounded,with families that would be left to struggle on their own. It&#039;s a national disgrace, and it&#039;s good to see someone trying to do something about it before Fort Devens and other closed military bases get sold to  contractors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted Kennedy is proposing legislation to make obsolete military bases like Fort Devens into permanant housing for the nation&#8217;s disabled war veterans and their families. It is an example of the kind of thing the legislature should be focusing on instead of ignoring, since the military is the tool the legislature uses when our freedoms are threatened.                                                         When they decided to spin the wheel and it landed on Iraq (not even a logical  first choice) they knew in advance there could be thousands of dead and wounded,with families that would be left to struggle on their own. It&#8217;s a national disgrace, and it&#8217;s good to see someone trying to do something about it before Fort Devens and other closed military bases get sold to  contractors.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/12/04/weekly-jackass-number-fifty-one-ted-kennedy/comment-page-2/#comment-8731</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Knemon</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/12/04/weekly-jackass-number-fifty-one-ted-kennedy/comment-page-2/#comment-8724</link>
		<dc:creator>Knemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You have to raise taxes somehow&quot;

Or you could cut the budget.  Not (just) granny&#039;s heating oil - first go after the &quot;bridge to nowhere&quot; crap, sugar subsidies (which will mess up FL&#039;s economy, and so this will obviously never happen because FL is one of the two most important states, electorally speaking [with OH]).  

Plus means-testing Social Security.  (Which will also never happen, of course, because old people have nothing better to do with their time than vote and write angry letters to politicians).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have to raise taxes somehow&#8221;</p>
<p>Or you could cut the budget.  Not (just) granny&#8217;s heating oil &#8211; first go after the &#8220;bridge to nowhere&#8221; crap, sugar subsidies (which will mess up FL&#8217;s economy, and so this will obviously never happen because FL is one of the two most important states, electorally speaking [with OH]).  </p>
<p>Plus means-testing Social Security.  (Which will also never happen, of course, because old people have nothing better to do with their time than vote and write angry letters to politicians).</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/12/04/weekly-jackass-number-fifty-one-ted-kennedy/comment-page-2/#comment-8712</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 14:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, definitely a Beatles man.  Attended the Bengladesh concert in Madison Square Garden and later saw John Lennon (with Yoko and Elephant&#039;s Memory) at the same place.  Saw them on Ed Sullivan, too.  Elvis never did it for me.

I am sure that there are many things we agree on -- I try not to be dogmatic and to go where (I think) the truth leads.  And I do like Lieberman (as well as people like Orren Hatch and Sam Brownback -- even though I think they are 100% wrong about everything -- because they are men of principle).

As for generosity -- well, maybe.  As a recently deceasied Senator (Herman Talmadge?) said, &quot;don&#039;t tax you, don&#039;t tax me, tax that guy behind the tree.&quot;  You have to raise taxes somehow, so you might as well raise them equitably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, definitely a Beatles man.  Attended the Bengladesh concert in Madison Square Garden and later saw John Lennon (with Yoko and Elephant&#8217;s Memory) at the same place.  Saw them on Ed Sullivan, too.  Elvis never did it for me.</p>
<p>I am sure that there are many things we agree on &#8212; I try not to be dogmatic and to go where (I think) the truth leads.  And I do like Lieberman (as well as people like Orren Hatch and Sam Brownback &#8212; even though I think they are 100% wrong about everything &#8212; because they are men of principle).</p>
<p>As for generosity &#8212; well, maybe.  As a recently deceasied Senator (Herman Talmadge?) said, &#8220;don&#8217;t tax you, don&#8217;t tax me, tax that guy behind the tree.&#8221;  You have to raise taxes somehow, so you might as well raise them equitably.</p>
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		<title>By: Knemon</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/12/04/weekly-jackass-number-fifty-one-ted-kennedy/comment-page-2/#comment-8706</link>
		<dc:creator>Knemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 06:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I do have one quibble:  cutting someone&#039;s taxes isn&#039;t being &quot;generous&quot; to them - or at least, that&#039;s not the first word I would use.

Giving someone something = generous
Not taking something from someone = ?

Again, one of these differences that I don&#039;t think we can rationally convince each other of through argument.  Maybe political differences, at bedrock level, are like aesthetic preferences - you&#039;re either a Beatles man, or an Elvis man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I do have one quibble:  cutting someone&#8217;s taxes isn&#8217;t being &#8220;generous&#8221; to them &#8211; or at least, that&#8217;s not the first word I would use.</p>
<p>Giving someone something = generous<br />
Not taking something from someone = ?</p>
<p>Again, one of these differences that I don&#8217;t think we can rationally convince each other of through argument.  Maybe political differences, at bedrock level, are like aesthetic preferences &#8211; you&#8217;re either a Beatles man, or an Elvis man?</p>
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		<title>By: Knemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 06:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so damn resonable, peter.  Please say &quot;Bushitler&quot; or &quot;chickenhawk&quot; a few times, to reinforce my preconceived notions.

So, not a fan of Lieberman, I take it?

Hey - I like Arnold too!  I think we agree more than we disagree.  &quot;We&#039;re not so different, you and I ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so damn resonable, peter.  Please say &#8220;Bushitler&#8221; or &#8220;chickenhawk&#8221; a few times, to reinforce my preconceived notions.</p>
<p>So, not a fan of Lieberman, I take it?</p>
<p>Hey &#8211; I like Arnold too!  I think we agree more than we disagree.  &#8220;We&#8217;re not so different, you and I &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/12/04/weekly-jackass-number-fifty-one-ted-kennedy/comment-page-2/#comment-8701</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 05:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as for Alec Baldwin:  I wish...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as for Alec Baldwin:  I wish&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/12/04/weekly-jackass-number-fifty-one-ted-kennedy/comment-page-2/#comment-8700</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 05:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a California resident, I think the primary was late enough that the nomination was already decided.  However, if I lived in New Hampshire, I would have voted for Kerry as the best of an unimpressive lot.  He was an awful campaigner but probably would have been OK as a President.  I thought Howard Dean was a one issue candidate; Wesley Clark did not have the resume; and Al Sharpton is a joke.  For the governor&#039;s race, I voted to recall Gray Davis and then I voted for Bustamante (but if I had to do it over, I would have voted for Arnold, who I think is doing a first rate job).

Regarding how much ought to go to entitlements:  I think you have to draw the line based on what the needs balanced against other priorities.  The government can never feed everyone who is hungry and pay for everyone who is sick -- there have to be limits.  We cannot afford to pay for $500,000 heart transplants for every 90 year old who needs one.  On the other hand, we are building bridges to nowhere in Alaska while, according to today&#039;s Times, the number of homeless kids has grown to 600,000.  The government ought to help those who cannot help themselves.  While I can&#039;t point to the precise level of what entitlement spending ought to be, I believe that the Bush administration is far short of the goal of helping the helpless, and far too generous to those who have ample resources to take care of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a California resident, I think the primary was late enough that the nomination was already decided.  However, if I lived in New Hampshire, I would have voted for Kerry as the best of an unimpressive lot.  He was an awful campaigner but probably would have been OK as a President.  I thought Howard Dean was a one issue candidate; Wesley Clark did not have the resume; and Al Sharpton is a joke.  For the governor&#8217;s race, I voted to recall Gray Davis and then I voted for Bustamante (but if I had to do it over, I would have voted for Arnold, who I think is doing a first rate job).</p>
<p>Regarding how much ought to go to entitlements:  I think you have to draw the line based on what the needs balanced against other priorities.  The government can never feed everyone who is hungry and pay for everyone who is sick &#8212; there have to be limits.  We cannot afford to pay for $500,000 heart transplants for every 90 year old who needs one.  On the other hand, we are building bridges to nowhere in Alaska while, according to today&#8217;s Times, the number of homeless kids has grown to 600,000.  The government ought to help those who cannot help themselves.  While I can&#8217;t point to the precise level of what entitlement spending ought to be, I believe that the Bush administration is far short of the goal of helping the helpless, and far too generous to those who have ample resources to take care of themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Knemon</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2005/12/04/weekly-jackass-number-fifty-one-ted-kennedy/comment-page-2/#comment-8698</link>
		<dc:creator>Knemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I&#039;ve only been in Texas once.  

San Antonio, one of my brothers and I went with my dad on a business trip.

I was 13 or so.  I remember it being a really cool city.

Hopefully I&#039;ll have cause to go there more often in the future ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;ve only been in Texas once.  </p>
<p>San Antonio, one of my brothers and I went with my dad on a business trip.</p>
<p>I was 13 or so.  I remember it being a really cool city.</p>
<p>Hopefully I&#8217;ll have cause to go there more often in the future &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but it was reduced to a misdemeanor in 1997...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but it was reduced to a misdemeanor in 1997&#8230;</p>
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