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	<title>Comments on: NSA Hearing Highlights, Part Four</title>
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		<title>By: Ashok Mukerji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok Mukerji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  Senator Dick Durbin is questioned by Paul Mirengoff for Pajamas Media and Power Line:

Wonderful!  The last line is the best:  Dan Rather knows about Pajamas Media &amp; Powerline!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  Senator Dick Durbin is questioned by Paul Mirengoff for Pajamas Media and Power Line:</p>
<p>Wonderful!  The last line is the best:  Dan Rather knows about Pajamas Media &amp; Powerline!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 02:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mussolini, I had not seen that...thanks for the link, I&#039;ll check it out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mussolini, I had not seen that&#8230;thanks for the link, I&#8217;ll check it out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gwedd</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/nsa-hearing-highlights-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-12404</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 02:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comrades,

   Well, in the Navy, there is still a universal response when asked about nuclear weapons, which is also modified for other actions, to wit: &quot;The United States Navy will neither confirm nor deny the existence of nuclear weapons aboard any aircraft, vessel, or station.&quot; To my mind, that&#039;s the position that the administration should be using with these hearings. 

   In other words, saying &quot;we&#039;ll be happy to talk to you in a closed session, but not on camera, in public, etc...&quot;

   If folks want some more interesting tidbits on this data collection, I would urge them to do a search for &quot;Project Echelon&quot;. That&#039;s the main physical system for data collection for the US and our allies.

   Which brings us to an interesting point. If the data is collected offshore of the US, say in Australia, or England, and is intercepted in the free and clear, then what&#039;s all the hubbub? The FBI took down most of the mob through eavesdropping on cellphone calls, which required no warrants. Anytime you broadcast in the ether, through radio, microwave, or any other medium, you forfeit any claim to privacy. It&#039;s no different than you and a friend talking in a pub or cabaret, etc. Others might well overhear your conversations, since you are willingly speaking in an open forum.

   If the US sigint collection points are overseas, and intercept  calls transmitted through the ether, then there is no law broken. 

   If you expect privacy, and want the Feds to need warrants, then you need to use a lanline and/or voice encryption. Either one is a clear demonstration of the belief and expectation of privacy. Otherwise, you are fair game for anyone that wants to listen in.

   Respects,

     Gwedd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comrades,</p>
<p>   Well, in the Navy, there is still a universal response when asked about nuclear weapons, which is also modified for other actions, to wit: &#8220;The United States Navy will neither confirm nor deny the existence of nuclear weapons aboard any aircraft, vessel, or station.&#8221; To my mind, that&#8217;s the position that the administration should be using with these hearings. </p>
<p>   In other words, saying &#8220;we&#8217;ll be happy to talk to you in a closed session, but not on camera, in public, etc&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>   If folks want some more interesting tidbits on this data collection, I would urge them to do a search for &#8220;Project Echelon&#8221;. That&#8217;s the main physical system for data collection for the US and our allies.</p>
<p>   Which brings us to an interesting point. If the data is collected offshore of the US, say in Australia, or England, and is intercepted in the free and clear, then what&#8217;s all the hubbub? The FBI took down most of the mob through eavesdropping on cellphone calls, which required no warrants. Anytime you broadcast in the ether, through radio, microwave, or any other medium, you forfeit any claim to privacy. It&#8217;s no different than you and a friend talking in a pub or cabaret, etc. Others might well overhear your conversations, since you are willingly speaking in an open forum.</p>
<p>   If the US sigint collection points are overseas, and intercept  calls transmitted through the ether, then there is no law broken. </p>
<p>   If you expect privacy, and want the Feds to need warrants, then you need to use a lanline and/or voice encryption. Either one is a clear demonstration of the belief and expectation of privacy. Otherwise, you are fair game for anyone that wants to listen in.</p>
<p>   Respects,</p>
<p>     Gwedd</p>
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		<title>By: Mussolini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mussolini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, were you aware of the Italian domestic wiretapping action that uncovered and foiled a plot against the US? Here is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/5/101649.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link.&lt;/a&gt;

The media won&#039;t pick it up because it validates what Bush is doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, were you aware of the Italian domestic wiretapping action that uncovered and foiled a plot against the US? Here is the <a href="http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/5/101649.shtml" rel="nofollow">link.</a></p>
<p>The media won&#8217;t pick it up because it validates what Bush is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: too many steves</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/nsa-hearing-highlights-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-12384</link>
		<dc:creator>too many steves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some torturous partisan positioning going on here (see: Leahy &amp; Schumer) but I find these hearings useful not so much to the final determination of the legality of the program but to clearly document the facts and positions for a judiciary review.  Of course, that would all be moot if Dewine, et al, succeed in modifying FISA to accommodate this program.

One other thing, it sure is easy to tell where the players line up on this issue based on which of the following phrases they use to describe the program:

&quot;terrorist surveillance program&quot;  or  &quot;domestic spying program&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some torturous partisan positioning going on here (see: Leahy &amp; Schumer) but I find these hearings useful not so much to the final determination of the legality of the program but to clearly document the facts and positions for a judiciary review.  Of course, that would all be moot if Dewine, et al, succeed in modifying FISA to accommodate this program.</p>
<p>One other thing, it sure is easy to tell where the players line up on this issue based on which of the following phrases they use to describe the program:</p>
<p>&#8220;terrorist surveillance program&#8221;  or  &#8220;domestic spying program&#8221;.</p>
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