Comments on: Reaching Across the Aisle to the Hand That Bites You http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12453 peter Wed, 08 Feb 2006 17:18:21 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12453 I was not aware of that, thanks Owen -- I was not aware of that, thanks Owen –

]]> By: Owen http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12446 Owen Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:25:20 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12446 I will say, Peter, that the wiretapping was not the most egregious thing, it was the attempt by the FBI to break up their marriage and force King to suicide. That is actually, I think, one of the most appalling covert plans I've ever heard of, especially given the target. I for one think that Carter was a little out of line, as well. But (and this doesn't even mean I'm advocating him) I do think it's funny to call Clinton a "wannabe" when you look at the scale of the positive reaction in the crowd to his appearance. I also think that, for the most part, his comments were pretty tasteful (what I've read at least. Yes, I'll allow myself that easy out). I will say, Peter, that the wiretapping was not the most egregious thing, it was the attempt by the FBI to break up their marriage and force King to suicide. That is actually, I think, one of the most appalling covert plans I’ve ever heard of, especially given the target. I for one think that Carter was a little out of line, as well. But (and this doesn’t even mean I’m advocating him) I do think it’s funny to call Clinton a “wannabe” when you look at the scale of the positive reaction in the crowd to his appearance. I also think that, for the most part, his comments were pretty tasteful (what I’ve read at least. Yes, I’ll allow myself that easy out).

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12427 Mark Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:00:36 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12427 The joys of the unintended link, eh?...but traffic's traffic, right? (Or, to quote Dean Martin: "As the fly said as he was walking over the mirror, that's one way of looking at it")... The joys of the unintended link, eh?…but traffic’s traffic, right? (Or, to quote Dean Martin: “As the fly said as he was walking over the mirror, that’s one way of looking at it”)…

]]> By: Jacques Distler http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12425 Jacques Distler Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:54:44 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12425 Yeesh! I keep thinking about posting my thoughts on that, and then think better of it. But why post new stuff when <a href="http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/archives/000090.html" rel="nofollow">this old post of mine</a> generated 6000 visitors yesterday? (I don't read the language, alas, but I think the <a href="http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2006/02/07/457077.html" rel="nofollow">Norwegian newspaper</a> that linked to it entirely missed the point of my post.) Yeesh!

I keep thinking about posting my thoughts on that, and then think better of it.

But why post new stuff when this old post of mine generated 6000 visitors yesterday? (I don’t read the language, alas, but I think the Norwegian newspaper that linked to it entirely missed the point of my post.)

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12424 Mark Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:29:20 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12424 Well, now you've forced me into a corner - you know I hate cable news as much as you do...I'll grant you this, it's not the big deal it's being blown up to be...I thought of it more as an annoyance than an outrage, as I may have mentioned before... Perhaps I should have just let it pass...but hey, anything that gets that Muslim cartoon story of the front pages, I'm in favor of!... Well, now you’ve forced me into a corner – you know I hate cable news as much as you do…I’ll grant you this, it’s not the big deal it’s being blown up to be…I thought of it more as an annoyance than an outrage, as I may have mentioned before…

Perhaps I should have just let it pass…but hey, anything that gets that Muslim cartoon story of the front pages, I’m in favor of!…

]]> By: Jacques Distler http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12418 Jacques Distler Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:59:15 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12418 <blockquote>It’s not the fact that they mentioned various causes of King’s; it’s that they personalized them in the figure of one of the distinguished attendees…</blockquote> He never mentioned said attendee, did he (though, I'll grant you, the implications were clear)? It was, if anything, quite a gentle speech, judging by the <a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/07.html#a7056" rel="nofollow">video</a>. (I'll admit that I haven't watched all 6 hours of the funeral; maybe there was something egregious in the parts that I missed.) <blockquote>In any event, the funeral was politicized</blockquote> And morbid, too. They kept talking about this dead person ... <blockquote>it’s all over almost every major media outlet...</blockquote> Yes, that says a <em>lot</em> about our cable new outlets, doesn't it?

It’s not the fact that they mentioned various causes of King’s; it’s that they personalized them in the figure of one of the distinguished attendees…

He never mentioned said attendee, did he (though, I’ll grant you, the implications were clear)?

It was, if anything, quite a gentle speech, judging by the video. (I’ll admit that I haven’t watched all 6 hours of the funeral; maybe there was something egregious in the parts that I missed.)

In any event, the funeral was politicized

And morbid, too. They kept talking about this dead person …

it’s all over almost every major media outlet…

Yes, that says a lot about our cable new outlets, doesn’t it?

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12417 Mark Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:02:41 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12417 In any event, the funeral was politicized - it's all over almost every major media outlet now, not just Drudge...I don't see why you can't honor the woman's accomplishments without insulting others in attendance... In any event, the funeral was politicized – it’s all over almost every major media outlet now, not just Drudge…I don’t see why you can’t honor the woman’s accomplishments without insulting others in attendance…

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12416 Mark Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:59:44 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12416 Jacques, I don't deny Lowery is a big civil-rights leader...but then, so is (supposedly) Jesse Jackson, he of the famous 'hymietown' comment. You can do great things and still be a race-baiter, can't you? It's not the fact that they mentioned various causes of King's; it's that they personalized them in the figure of one of the distinguished attendees... Jacques, I don’t deny Lowery is a big civil-rights leader…but then, so is (supposedly) Jesse Jackson, he of the famous ‘hymietown’ comment. You can do great things and still be a race-baiter, can’t you?

It’s not the fact that they mentioned various causes of King’s; it’s that they personalized them in the figure of one of the distinguished attendees…

]]> By: Jacques Distler http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12415 Jacques Distler Wed, 08 Feb 2006 05:52:43 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12415 So the Reverend Lowery is a race-baiter, eh? My, <a href="http://www.thehistorymakers.com/biography/biography.asp?bioindex=455&category=civicMakers" rel="nofollow">how quickly they forget</a>. And speaking out against the War at Coretta's funeral? This, remember, was a woman who led a 50,000 person civil rights march the day before her husband's funeral, and spoke at a huge anti-War rally, a mere 3 weeks later. She was an activist all her life, fighting for exactly the things Lowery touched on in his eulogy. To pretend otherwise ... <em>that</em> would have been to dishonour her memory. So the Reverend Lowery is a race-baiter, eh?

My, how quickly they forget.

And speaking out against the War at Coretta’s funeral? This, remember, was a woman who led a 50,000 person civil rights march the day before her husband’s funeral, and spoke at a huge anti-War rally, a mere 3 weeks later.

She was an activist all her life, fighting for exactly the things Lowery touched on in his eulogy. To pretend otherwise … that would have been to dishonour her memory.

]]> By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/comment-page-1/#comment-12410 peter Wed, 08 Feb 2006 03:16:41 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/07/reaching-across-the-aisle-to-the-hand-that-bites-you/#comment-12410 The wiretaps were the most egregious thing the government did -- as a former President, it seems appropriate for Carter to acknowledge it -- I don't see any connection with the NSA issue, oblique or otherwise. I think perhaps you are reading too much into this. The wiretaps were the most egregious thing the government did — as a former President, it seems appropriate for Carter to acknowledge it — I don’t see any connection with the NSA issue, oblique or otherwise. I think perhaps you are reading too much into this.

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