Comments on: The Return of Jimmah http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: dmac http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/comment-page-1/#comment-13080 dmac Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:38:09 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/#comment-13080 Once the wall is completed, we may see more action on this front than in the previous 5 years combined. The Palestinians only respect actions and deeds, words justify weakness to them. Once the wall is completed, we may see more action on this front than in the previous 5 years combined. The Palestinians only respect actions and deeds, words justify weakness to them.

]]> By: Dennis http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/comment-page-1/#comment-13076 Dennis Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:22:50 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/#comment-13076 Exactly. It's not a matter of assigning priorities so much as recognizing some strategies don't work. Merely sending a negotiator over to keep talks going on the theory that the talks themselves are a good thing is pointless. Now negotiations may be fruitful again in the future, so I'm not saying a negotiator is necessarily a bad thing. I'm just saying the absence of a negotiator is not necessarily bad either. Exactly. It’s not a matter of assigning priorities so much as recognizing some strategies don’t work. Merely sending a negotiator over to keep talks going on the theory that the talks themselves are a good thing is pointless.

Now negotiations may be fruitful again in the future, so I’m not saying a negotiator is necessarily a bad thing. I’m just saying the absence of a negotiator is not necessarily bad either.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/comment-page-1/#comment-13075 Mark Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:59:02 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/#comment-13075 Yes, but we had the Road Map and the Gang of Four - it's not as if Bush has been totally inactive...besides, if Carter has a beef with anyone, it's Sharon, who (wisely, in my view) decided disengagement was the way to go... Yes, but we had the Road Map and the Gang of Four – it’s not as if Bush has been totally inactive…besides, if Carter has a beef with anyone, it’s Sharon, who (wisely, in my view) decided disengagement was the way to go…

]]> By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/comment-page-1/#comment-13073 peter Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:40:17 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/#comment-13073 I don't see how Carter's remarks are a stab at Bush -- there have, in fact, been no peace talks for over five years -- when these talks have occured in the past, it has been primarily because of American pressure -- moreover, there has not been an American negotiator (such as Dennis Ross) for as long -- perhaps you feel that America ought not to be involved in Isreali-Palestinian negotiations, but its indisputable that this conflict has been less of a priority for Bush II than for previous administrations -- I don’t see how Carter’s remarks are a stab at Bush — there have, in fact, been no peace talks for over five years — when these talks have occured in the past, it has been primarily because of American pressure — moreover, there has not been an American negotiator (such as Dennis Ross) for as long — perhaps you feel that America ought not to be involved in Isreali-Palestinian negotiations, but its indisputable that this conflict has been less of a priority for Bush II than for previous administrations –

]]> By: Dennis http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/comment-page-1/#comment-13068 Dennis Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:31:38 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/02/20/the-return-of-jimmah/#comment-13068 There is a certain element that believes in the notion that "talking" is a good in itself, that as long as some discussions are going on, even if nothing is being accomplished, it's still somehow an example of working toward peace. These are the folks who freaked when talks broke down between Gorbachev and Reagan in Iceland (sp?) over disputes over SDI. Meanwhile, Reagan's willingness to walk away that day probably did more to hasten the end of the Cold War than all the jabbering of endless summits. Things have been made pretty plain for the Palestinians. If they're not willing to recognize some basic facts, such as Israel is not going away, they can stew in their own filth. I don't feel the need to keep talking just to make them feel good. There is a certain element that believes in the notion that “talking” is a good in itself, that as long as some discussions are going on, even if nothing is being accomplished, it’s still somehow an example of working toward peace.

These are the folks who freaked when talks broke down between Gorbachev and Reagan in Iceland (sp?) over disputes over SDI. Meanwhile, Reagan’s willingness to walk away that day probably did more to hasten the end of the Cold War than all the jabbering of endless summits.

Things have been made pretty plain for the Palestinians. If they’re not willing to recognize some basic facts, such as Israel is not going away, they can stew in their own filth. I don’t feel the need to keep talking just to make them feel good.

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