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		<title>By: Sean P</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/24/krauthammer-to-the-rescue-again/comment-page-1/#comment-13252</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Krauthammer completely. I would only add that the port authority should be required to store all physical records in the United States, to ensure that any such records can be obtained through subpoena, if necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Krauthammer completely. I would only add that the port authority should be required to store all physical records in the United States, to ensure that any such records can be obtained through subpoena, if necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: mtl</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/24/krauthammer-to-the-rescue-again/comment-page-1/#comment-13239</link>
		<dc:creator>mtl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to mention to include, in my dream ad, to play the uniformed response, go to Bush&#039;s classic line-&quot;I listen to the commander&#039;s in the field&quot;, and THEN play the democrats crazy talk about what a threat the UAE is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention to include, in my dream ad, to play the uniformed response, go to Bush&#8217;s classic line-&#8221;I listen to the commander&#8217;s in the field&#8221;, and THEN play the democrats crazy talk about what a threat the UAE is.</p>
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		<title>By: kristen breitweiser</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/24/krauthammer-to-the-rescue-again/comment-page-1/#comment-13235</link>
		<dc:creator>kristen breitweiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just get me and Mandy to those hearings...

It worked last time, didn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just get me and Mandy to those hearings&#8230;</p>
<p>It worked last time, didn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: mtl</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/24/krauthammer-to-the-rescue-again/comment-page-1/#comment-13234</link>
		<dc:creator>mtl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>500,000 Arab americans in Michigan.  Granhom is at 41% approval (gov) and Stabenow is at 49%(sen).  06 looms near.

250,000 Arab americans in NJ.  Menedez has a 36% approval ratings..and will be running against Keane jr.  another 06 race.

Peter your corporate analogy is weak.  Insert the phrase &#039;Arab-owned&#039; before all your corporate references.

The campaign commercial that is already being planned:

Every uniformed Officer and high ranking intel Officer stating that the UAE is essential in the GWOT and that they have been a steadfast ally, citing all the examples of their support.  Followed by every Senator who is opposed, making some crazy anti Arab statement about their unwillingness to trust ANY Arab government.

The closing voice-over:

&quot;Who do you trust to defend our National Security?&quot;

Military v. Dems in 06, which is what Rove has always wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>500,000 Arab americans in Michigan.  Granhom is at 41% approval (gov) and Stabenow is at 49%(sen).  06 looms near.</p>
<p>250,000 Arab americans in NJ.  Menedez has a 36% approval ratings..and will be running against Keane jr.  another 06 race.</p>
<p>Peter your corporate analogy is weak.  Insert the phrase &#8216;Arab-owned&#8217; before all your corporate references.</p>
<p>The campaign commercial that is already being planned:</p>
<p>Every uniformed Officer and high ranking intel Officer stating that the UAE is essential in the GWOT and that they have been a steadfast ally, citing all the examples of their support.  Followed by every Senator who is opposed, making some crazy anti Arab statement about their unwillingness to trust ANY Arab government.</p>
<p>The closing voice-over:</p>
<p>&#8220;Who do you trust to defend our National Security?&#8221;</p>
<p>Military v. Dems in 06, which is what Rove has always wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Fargus</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/02/24/krauthammer-to-the-rescue-again/comment-page-1/#comment-13232</link>
		<dc:creator>Fargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that port security in general is an issue that really SHOULD BE discussed in earnest.  And if this is an opening to that, then that&#039;s good, whether or not the initial drive to get it into the open was political.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that port security in general is an issue that really SHOULD BE discussed in earnest.  And if this is an opening to that, then that&#8217;s good, whether or not the initial drive to get it into the open was political.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Had I known about these things earlier, I would have had the same qualms about them as I did initially about this deal.&quot; 

Yes, and the reason you didn&#039;t hear about them was because there was no political angle to discussing it in the first place. I don&#039;t think this deal should have ever moved beyond the discovery phase (of which the tone - deaf Bush administration did a failing effort on), but the quick denunciations from some on the left feel all - too - familiar as just more piling on these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Had I known about these things earlier, I would have had the same qualms about them as I did initially about this deal.&#8221; </p>
<p>Yes, and the reason you didn&#8217;t hear about them was because there was no political angle to discussing it in the first place. I don&#8217;t think this deal should have ever moved beyond the discovery phase (of which the tone &#8211; deaf Bush administration did a failing effort on), but the quick denunciations from some on the left feel all &#8211; too &#8211; familiar as just more piling on these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Fargus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s a pretty clear line between a private company based in the UAE and a company explicitly owned by the UAE, with regards to your last paragraph.  But leaving that aside, you bring up an excellent point, about UAE falling somewhere between Britain and Iran.  You&#039;re right that I wouldn&#039;t have a problem, really, as a matter of substance, with Britain operating the ports, but I think that if I were to choose, I&#039;d rather have no foreign state-operated ports than to leave it open to any country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a pretty clear line between a private company based in the UAE and a company explicitly owned by the UAE, with regards to your last paragraph.  But leaving that aside, you bring up an excellent point, about UAE falling somewhere between Britain and Iran.  You&#8217;re right that I wouldn&#8217;t have a problem, really, as a matter of substance, with Britain operating the ports, but I think that if I were to choose, I&#8217;d rather have no foreign state-operated ports than to leave it open to any country.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Personally, I’m not comfortable with the idea of a foreign state-owned corporation having control over operations at U.S. ports, regardless of the state.&quot;

Fargus, I know you made the distinction of saying state-owned, but say P&amp;O was owned bythe British government. Would you be up in arms about that? I&#039;m guessing probably not. It seems to me the issue of foreign ownership, state or not, is a red herring. It&#039;s all a question of &lt;i&gt;which&lt;/i&gt; foreign nation. I think everyone would agree that we wouldn&#039;t want a company owned by the Iranian government running our ports. For that matter, I doubt many people would want a company owned by Iranian private investors running our ports either. 

The reason the UAE deal is controversial is it falls somewhere in between Britain and Iran. Depending on whose essay you read, they&#039;re either a vital ally and a nation more devoted to doing business than preaching Islamofascism, or they&#039;re a shadowy emirate that plays both sides of the fence. I&#039;m certainly not expert enough on the region to say for sure which interpretation is correct, and I&#039;m pretty darn sure most of the politicians who are pronouncing so authoritatively on the matter don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about either. For that reason, I think Congressional hearings might be good, if only to educate people on the situation, and stop some of the grandstanding.

As for hypocrisy, would it be all right to say we shouldn&#039;t hire individual Arabs to work at ports, just because they&#039;re Arab? I think if you say that&#039;s wrong, it&#039;s hard to then turn around and say the employee can be Arab, but the guy who signs his paycheck can&#039;t be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Personally, I’m not comfortable with the idea of a foreign state-owned corporation having control over operations at U.S. ports, regardless of the state.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fargus, I know you made the distinction of saying state-owned, but say P&amp;O was owned bythe British government. Would you be up in arms about that? I&#8217;m guessing probably not. It seems to me the issue of foreign ownership, state or not, is a red herring. It&#8217;s all a question of <i>which</i> foreign nation. I think everyone would agree that we wouldn&#8217;t want a company owned by the Iranian government running our ports. For that matter, I doubt many people would want a company owned by Iranian private investors running our ports either. </p>
<p>The reason the UAE deal is controversial is it falls somewhere in between Britain and Iran. Depending on whose essay you read, they&#8217;re either a vital ally and a nation more devoted to doing business than preaching Islamofascism, or they&#8217;re a shadowy emirate that plays both sides of the fence. I&#8217;m certainly not expert enough on the region to say for sure which interpretation is correct, and I&#8217;m pretty darn sure most of the politicians who are pronouncing so authoritatively on the matter don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about either. For that reason, I think Congressional hearings might be good, if only to educate people on the situation, and stop some of the grandstanding.</p>
<p>As for hypocrisy, would it be all right to say we shouldn&#8217;t hire individual Arabs to work at ports, just because they&#8217;re Arab? I think if you say that&#8217;s wrong, it&#8217;s hard to then turn around and say the employee can be Arab, but the guy who signs his paycheck can&#8217;t be.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krauthammer&#039;s attack on Democrats is gratuitous and incorrect.  

1)  His argument rests on the statement that &quot;Democrats loudly denounce any thought of racial profiling.&quot;  Some do and some don&#039;t. The organizations which oppose it are the ACLU, NAACP, and other advocacy groups.  Post 9/11, there is no consensus among Democrats one way or the other.

2)  He then conflates racial profiling with the ports issue, which is a false analogy.  Individual rights are much different (and much broader) than corporate rights, especially for foreign companies.  You could make a case that the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments protect one against racial profiling, but no such case exists on behalf of corporations.  Hence one can oppose racial profiling and the ports contract without being inconsistent or a &quot;rank hypocrite.&quot;

3)  Krauthammer concludes by agreeing that the Democrats who oppose the contract are correct in objecting to it, although the implication is that they take the position for partisan reasons (to be to the right of Bush) and not for the profound reasoning which Krauthammer offers.  It&#039;s a cheap shot:  what he is saying is that even though the Democrats are right, they&#039;re wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krauthammer&#8217;s attack on Democrats is gratuitous and incorrect.  </p>
<p>1)  His argument rests on the statement that &#8220;Democrats loudly denounce any thought of racial profiling.&#8221;  Some do and some don&#8217;t. The organizations which oppose it are the ACLU, NAACP, and other advocacy groups.  Post 9/11, there is no consensus among Democrats one way or the other.</p>
<p>2)  He then conflates racial profiling with the ports issue, which is a false analogy.  Individual rights are much different (and much broader) than corporate rights, especially for foreign companies.  You could make a case that the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments protect one against racial profiling, but no such case exists on behalf of corporations.  Hence one can oppose racial profiling and the ports contract without being inconsistent or a &#8220;rank hypocrite.&#8221;</p>
<p>3)  Krauthammer concludes by agreeing that the Democrats who oppose the contract are correct in objecting to it, although the implication is that they take the position for partisan reasons (to be to the right of Bush) and not for the profound reasoning which Krauthammer offers.  It&#8217;s a cheap shot:  what he is saying is that even though the Democrats are right, they&#8217;re wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Fargus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit tired of all of the race-baiting going on from Bush supporters here.  Personally, I&#039;m not comfortable with the idea of a foreign state-owned corporation having control over operations at U.S. ports, regardless of the state.  I understand now that it&#039;s a fairly common thing, and that Singapore and China both have such deals in place at other ports.  Had I known about these things earlier, I would have had the same qualms about them as I did initially about this deal.  But to say that everybody opposed to the deal is a &quot;rank hypocrite&quot; and an Islamophobe, and a bigot, and only opposed to the deal because it&#039;s being done with Arabs...man, that&#039;s vile, obviously incorrect, and ultimately distracting from the actual issues at hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit tired of all of the race-baiting going on from Bush supporters here.  Personally, I&#8217;m not comfortable with the idea of a foreign state-owned corporation having control over operations at U.S. ports, regardless of the state.  I understand now that it&#8217;s a fairly common thing, and that Singapore and China both have such deals in place at other ports.  Had I known about these things earlier, I would have had the same qualms about them as I did initially about this deal.  But to say that everybody opposed to the deal is a &#8220;rank hypocrite&#8221; and an Islamophobe, and a bigot, and only opposed to the deal because it&#8217;s being done with Arabs&#8230;man, that&#8217;s vile, obviously incorrect, and ultimately distracting from the actual issues at hand.</p>
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