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By: Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » Jimmah Gets His Wish

Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » Jimmah Gets His Wish — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:33:44 +0000

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By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » Jimmah And Kofi Sitting In A Tree

Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » Jimmah And Kofi Sitting In A Tree — Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:27:45 +0000

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By: JJ

JJ — Sat, 04 Mar 2006 01:12:16 +0000

Carter was for a while a great example of an ex president. He showed commitment to making the world better by building homes in underdeveloped countries, as well as in poor US communities, being an observer of elections worldwide, just to name a few. Im not against an ex president stating his political views so long as they are not competing in the political system. That means, its inappropriate to take jabs at a successor. And when that successor is taking us to the brink of anhialation, even then, I think its inappropriate for an ex president to take such jabs at a successor to foreignors. Unity at all costs. He should know that. He has become a shameful utter embarrassment. Make The News Better

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:45:38 +0000

Sorry, peter, the report is accurate…I just posted a link to the transcript in my newest…

By: Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » The Jimmy Carter Remarks: The Transcript

Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:45:26 +0000

[...] Some (I’m talking to you, Peter! – but you were right to be skeptical) have questioned whether Jimmy Carter really said the things the New York Sun alleged him to say. Let’s go to the transcript. On the mistaken assumptions of U.S. Policy vis-a-vis Israel: Let me first review the official position of the United States. From Dwight Eisenhower to the road map of George W. Bush, our policy has been that Israel’s borders coincide with those of 1949. The United States has consistently stated since 1967 that U.N. Resolution 242 is binding on Israel as a foreign power that is occupying Palestinian territory. To quote its key commitments, “The inadmissability of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every state in the area can live in security, and the withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from the territories occupied in the recent conflict” — I’m still quoting — “and a termination of all claims or states of belligernecy, and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty of territorial integrity and political independence of every state in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries, free from threats or acts of violence.” [...]

By: peter

peter — Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:41:38 +0000

If you can show some examples where the Times deliberately distorted a news story for partisan gain, I am eager to see them –

By: dmac

dmac — Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:39:02 +0000

You may be correct, Peter – but the issue of polemics is one that your heroes at the NYT practice with regularity. You know the old adage – “those who throw stones…”

And given Carter’s contemptible actions over the past few years, this story is imminently plausible.

By: peter

peter — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:40:23 +0000

The reporting in this article seems a little fishy to me. If Carter said these things, it is certainly newsworthy, but I could not find any other coverage of his speech anywhere else on the Internet. The reporter did not reveal the source of his information (was he there? Did he interview someone else who was there?). Also, there are several things in the story which are just plain weird. Carter making personal assurances to ambassadors? Carter attacking pro-Isreal Christians?

Jimmy Carter is an old man, and possibly in his dotage he is morphing into Ralph Nader or Ramsey Clark. However, I would want to see some other verification besides the NY Sun. The Sun is a polemical publication. This doesn’t necessarily mean that its account is false, but the story is so bizarre that I think some skepticism is in order before jumping to conclusions –

By: dmac

dmac — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:17:10 +0000

Quite a sad spectacle he’s become these days, and it didn’t have to be this way – he had a good start with the Habitat for Humanity programs, which helped him regain some of the lost respect he had after his disasterous term as President.

Give us your tired Dictators (Chavez), your poor huddled homicidal maniacs (Hamas) – Jimmy will always be your saving grace as head apologist for your monstrous actions.

By: Dennis

Dennis — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:50:36 +0000

Even beyond the issue of whether it’s appropriate for a former president to take swipes at his successors, let’s all bathe in the unmitigated gall of this portion of the story:

However, on the next day, Mr. Carter said, Mr. Bolton publicly “demanded” that the five permanent members of the Security Council will have permanent seats on the new council as well, “which subverted exactly what I have promised them,” Mr. Carter said.
Perhaps someone needs to explain to Mr. Carter that when people address him as “Mr. President” nowadays, it’s just a courtesy. Exactly what standing does he have to promise any diplomat anything, other than a ride home from the dinner party? You can’t be subverted if you never had power to begin with.