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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/08/the-party-without-a-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13896</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 05:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megapotamus:

Nader barely beat Badnarik (of the Libertarians) for third place (I think his percentage was somewhere closer to 1% or less, actually).  Ralph reached the pinnacle of his political career in 2000.  Add in the fact that he&#039;s in his late 70s (I think?), and hasn&#039;t even made a peep anywhere since 2004, and I don&#039;t think that adds up to another presidential run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megapotamus:</p>
<p>Nader barely beat Badnarik (of the Libertarians) for third place (I think his percentage was somewhere closer to 1% or less, actually).  Ralph reached the pinnacle of his political career in 2000.  Add in the fact that he&#8217;s in his late 70s (I think?), and hasn&#8217;t even made a peep anywhere since 2004, and I don&#8217;t think that adds up to another presidential run.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/08/the-party-without-a-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13886</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, everyone seems to foget that Clinton won a plurality, not a majority. But I don&#039;t think Nader has any relevance anymore - didn&#039;t he get less than 2% of the vote last time? Granted, this could make the difference again, but then you&#039;d be assuming he gets the same share of the vote, when his trends are clearly downward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, everyone seems to foget that Clinton won a plurality, not a majority. But I don&#8217;t think Nader has any relevance anymore &#8211; didn&#8217;t he get less than 2% of the vote last time? Granted, this could make the difference again, but then you&#8217;d be assuming he gets the same share of the vote, when his trends are clearly downward.</p>
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		<title>By: megapotamus</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/08/the-party-without-a-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13885</link>
		<dc:creator>megapotamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 3rd party phenomenon is a real factor. Donkeys have short memories, apparently. Clinton&#039;s election and reelection were supposed to harbinger an &quot;emerging Democratic majority&quot;. Only they never factor in the Perot effect when they look back on those elections. H Ross is an unperson as he played so ignominious a roll; dividing the Rep base. All I can say is that I pray fervently for the continued good health and fervor of Ralph Nader. He&#039;s my hero. Or could well be in &#039;08.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 3rd party phenomenon is a real factor. Donkeys have short memories, apparently. Clinton&#8217;s election and reelection were supposed to harbinger an &#8220;emerging Democratic majority&#8221;. Only they never factor in the Perot effect when they look back on those elections. H Ross is an unperson as he played so ignominious a roll; dividing the Rep base. All I can say is that I pray fervently for the continued good health and fervor of Ralph Nader. He&#8217;s my hero. Or could well be in &#8217;08.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/08/the-party-without-a-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13870</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What changes the political landscape in America is a third party or a controversy that effects the everyday life of a majority of voters. A draft, high unemployment/high inflation, the perceived threat to &quot;take your doctor away&quot; or some type of Social Security reform that lowered its benefits but not its tax rates etc. If vague accusations of far off &quot;corruption&quot; were enough to cause a political party to lose then the Democrats would have been out in the cold since Boss Tweed&#039;s last campaign. That&#039;s why I think the Democrats will pick up a few seats but not enough to control either House of Congress. Of course, as there are 8 months to go I could be completely wrong. But that&#039;s my take for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What changes the political landscape in America is a third party or a controversy that effects the everyday life of a majority of voters. A draft, high unemployment/high inflation, the perceived threat to &#8220;take your doctor away&#8221; or some type of Social Security reform that lowered its benefits but not its tax rates etc. If vague accusations of far off &#8220;corruption&#8221; were enough to cause a political party to lose then the Democrats would have been out in the cold since Boss Tweed&#8217;s last campaign. That&#8217;s why I think the Democrats will pick up a few seats but not enough to control either House of Congress. Of course, as there are 8 months to go I could be completely wrong. But that&#8217;s my take for now.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/08/the-party-without-a-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13866</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dole didn&#039;t win with his &quot;where&#039;s the outrage&quot; theme versus Clinton, and the Dems will see similar results. Those who do not learn from history, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dole didn&#8217;t win with his &#8220;where&#8217;s the outrage&#8221; theme versus Clinton, and the Dems will see similar results. Those who do not learn from history, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/08/the-party-without-a-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13865</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Hugh Hewitt said: &quot;Democrats Vow Not to Give Up Hopelessness.&quot;

I think their &quot;Contract with America,&quot; which is again due out in a few weeks, will not have any positive programs. As they can&#039;t come to agreement on what they should stand for, their best move right now is to maximize party unity by being negative. If this doesn&#039;t work in 06, they&#039;ll have enough time to change their track for 08. But, if they win this November, don&#039;t expect any changes in the 08 campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Hugh Hewitt said: &#8220;Democrats Vow Not to Give Up Hopelessness.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think their &#8220;Contract with America,&#8221; which is again due out in a few weeks, will not have any positive programs. As they can&#8217;t come to agreement on what they should stand for, their best move right now is to maximize party unity by being negative. If this doesn&#8217;t work in 06, they&#8217;ll have enough time to change their track for 08. But, if they win this November, don&#8217;t expect any changes in the 08 campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Brassband</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/08/the-party-without-a-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13864</link>
		<dc:creator>Brassband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big problem for the Democrats is that disappointment with Bush does not translate into votes for Democrats.

Remember that in 2000 the &quot;wrong track&quot; polling number was not good for President Bush, but he won anyway.  He won because a majority of voters obviously believed that Democrats would put us on a &quot;worse track.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big problem for the Democrats is that disappointment with Bush does not translate into votes for Democrats.</p>
<p>Remember that in 2000 the &#8220;wrong track&#8221; polling number was not good for President Bush, but he won anyway.  He won because a majority of voters obviously believed that Democrats would put us on a &#8220;worse track.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the problem is Bruce Bartlett goes on to make an argument of what Bush &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be doing. The Democrats haven&#039;t said much other than, &quot;We&#039;ll be better.&quot;

I think that may be enough to carry the Democrats over the top, as the nation does go through occasional bouts of &quot;throw the rascals out,&quot; and that&#039;s probably a healthy thing for a democracy. But it&#039;s not all that useful a slogan once you&#039;ve been elected and now &lt;i&gt;you&#039;re&lt;/i&gt; the rascal. What would the Democrats do about Iraq? Iran? Health care? Social Security? Trade policies? Immigration? It&#039;s not really clear, because the Democrats are terribly divided themselves on those issues. That&#039;s why you have Hillary Clinton triangulating herself all over the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the problem is Bruce Bartlett goes on to make an argument of what Bush <i>should</i> be doing. The Democrats haven&#8217;t said much other than, &#8220;We&#8217;ll be better.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that may be enough to carry the Democrats over the top, as the nation does go through occasional bouts of &#8220;throw the rascals out,&#8221; and that&#8217;s probably a healthy thing for a democracy. But it&#8217;s not all that useful a slogan once you&#8217;ve been elected and now <i>you&#8217;re</i> the rascal. What would the Democrats do about Iraq? Iran? Health care? Social Security? Trade policies? Immigration? It&#8217;s not really clear, because the Democrats are terribly divided themselves on those issues. That&#8217;s why you have Hillary Clinton triangulating herself all over the place.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/08/the-party-without-a-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13860</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but is it a message that wins elections?  That&#039;s the question...November holds the answer, of course...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but is it a message that wins elections?  That&#8217;s the question&#8230;November holds the answer, of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fargus</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/08/the-party-without-a-message/comment-page-1/#comment-13858</link>
		<dc:creator>Fargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being against what Bush stands for is more than just a Democratic position now.  You&#039;d hardly call Bruce Bartlett a Democratic shill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being against what Bush stands for is more than just a Democratic position now.  You&#8217;d hardly call Bruce Bartlett a Democratic shill.</p>
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