Comments on: Red America Strikes At The WaPo http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Bad Breath Remedies http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-272598 Bad Breath Remedies Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:30:57 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-272598 <strong>stop bad breath...</strong> May I suggest if you are suffering from bad breath to take a look... stop bad breath…

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]]> By: megapotamus http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-14593 megapotamus Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:44:54 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-14593 Gerrymandering is no marginal problem but DeLay's map did not usurp some platonic ideal but a Democrat gerrymander that had kept the Texas Congressional delegation from reflecting the Republican trend in voting for the previous two census cycles at least. Now, I'm not in Texas but if some one on either side had proposed, say, a Colorodo-esque districting panel I would certainly have considered that an improvement even if it did delay or dilute immediate Rep advances BUT no such creature showed itself even when the Dems ran off to avoid a quorum call so, tough. The Dems lived large and long on borrowed time. That the ensuing wave was yet more decisive when it fell, well, I weep for them. Seriously. Not really. I actually didn't care much for that opener on the blog. We've won elections, yes, but that doesn't really tell you about any particular issue especially two years after said election. If the election were held today Generic Dem would probably beat Bush. Kerry? No. If only they could find that Generic Dem, sounds like a fine chap. All this barking about majorities though as a cudgel to opponents has too much of the odor of the Bolshie. We should be talking about why we are right (which the item does though not that well), not our popularity or otherwise. But as a corrective to the drum circling types who perpetually declare that every human would pocketmulch if only they were exposed to the luminous truth, well, it is a necessity. Gerrymandering is no marginal problem but DeLay’s map did not usurp some platonic ideal but a Democrat gerrymander that had kept the Texas Congressional delegation from reflecting the Republican trend in voting for the previous two census cycles at least. Now, I’m not in Texas but if some one on either side had proposed, say, a Colorodo-esque districting panel I would certainly have considered that an improvement even if it did delay or dilute immediate Rep advances BUT no such creature showed itself even when the Dems ran off to avoid a quorum call so, tough. The Dems lived large and long on borrowed time. That the ensuing wave was yet more decisive when it fell, well, I weep for them. Seriously.
Not really.
I actually didn’t care much for that opener on the blog. We’ve won elections, yes, but that doesn’t really tell you about any particular issue especially two years after said election. If the election were held today Generic Dem would probably beat Bush. Kerry? No. If only they could find that Generic Dem, sounds like a fine chap.
All this barking about majorities though as a cudgel to opponents has too much of the odor of the Bolshie. We should be talking about why we are right (which the item does though not that well), not our popularity or otherwise. But as a corrective to the drum circling types who perpetually declare that every human would pocketmulch if only they were exposed to the luminous truth, well, it is a necessity.

]]> By: Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » Proof That Red America Is A Good Thing http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-14560 Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » Proof That Red America Is A Good Thing Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:01:34 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-14560 [...] Yesterday, I noted the unveiling of the blog Red America at the Washington Post. The Nutroots® have noticed, too - and they’re apoplectic. Why the uproar? Yes, he’s a partisan - that’s why he was hired. He’s a blogger, not an editor… [...] [...] Yesterday, I noted the unveiling of the blog Red America at the Washington Post. The Nutroots® have noticed, too – and they’re apoplectic. Why the uproar? Yes, he’s a partisan – that’s why he was hired. He’s a blogger, not an editor… [...]

]]> By: too many steves http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-14559 too many steves Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:49:24 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-14559 I'm trying to figure out how it can be that both houses of Congress are majorities for the Republicans while a majority of voters cast votes for Democrats. And spare me the math - I understand how that works. That's like pointing out that Gore won the popular vote in 2000: irrelevant. Just more "we lost but we really won" fantasizing. The House is overwhelmingly Republican, the Senate marginally so. 2006, well, we shall see - there might be a change in the air. I’m trying to figure out how it can be that both houses of Congress are majorities for the Republicans while a majority of voters cast votes for Democrats. And spare me the math – I understand how that works. That’s like pointing out that Gore won the popular vote in 2000: irrelevant. Just more “we lost but we really won” fantasizing. The House is overwhelmingly Republican, the Senate marginally so.

2006, well, we shall see – there might be a change in the air.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-14546 Mark Wed, 22 Mar 2006 02:26:01 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-14546 Fox News is actually pretty accurate. Most Fox News employees probably feel that they are 'Republican friendly', but balanced. Most New York Times employees probably feel that they are the opposite (i.e., friendly towards, but not biased towards, Democrats). In each case, though, they are deluding themselves, as their biases show through pretty plainly to disinterested observers... Fox News is actually pretty accurate. Most Fox News employees probably feel that they are ‘Republican friendly’, but balanced. Most New York Times employees probably feel that they are the opposite (i.e., friendly towards, but not biased towards, Democrats).

In each case, though, they are deluding themselves, as their biases show through pretty plainly to disinterested observers…

]]> By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-14543 peter Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:27:53 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-14543 The power of incumbency (only four House incumbents lost to challengers in 2004) and gerry-mandering (see: DeLay, Tom) seems to give lifetime employment to Congressmen. Let’s see: we have Presidential elections where the popular vote will see-saw between one side and the other; we have Senatorial elections where a majority of voters pull a Democratic lever; and we have Congressional elections which are basically static. The cliché is that this is a “bitterly divided electorate,” and in this case the cliché is true. The statement that a majority of Americans favor Republican policies is not supported by the facts. If you don’t like Rush Limbaugh as an example, please feel free to substitute Fox News in his place. The power of incumbency (only four House incumbents lost to challengers in 2004) and gerry-mandering (see: DeLay, Tom) seems to give lifetime employment to Congressmen. Let’s see: we have Presidential elections where the popular vote will see-saw between one side and the other; we have Senatorial elections where a majority of voters pull a Democratic lever; and we have Congressional elections which are basically static. The cliché is that this is a “bitterly divided electorate,” and in this case the cliché is true. The statement that a majority of Americans favor Republican policies is not supported by the facts.

If you don’t like Rush Limbaugh as an example, please feel free to substitute Fox News in his place.

]]> By: Ryan Bonneville http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-14542 Ryan Bonneville Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:17:56 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-14542 Peter, how does the majority feel when voting in, say, House elections? Last time I checked, they've been making themselves clear there since 1994. Also, it's spectacularly hilarious that you compare the Times to Rush. One of those is a news organization and one is a pundit. Are you and yours so far gone that you can't tell the difference? (Don't get me wrong, I can't tell the difference when those two sources are compared, but I'm supposed to be the "knuckle-dragging" one here.) Peter, how does the majority feel when voting in, say, House elections? Last time I checked, they’ve been making themselves clear there since 1994.

Also, it’s spectacularly hilarious that you compare the Times to Rush. One of those is a news organization and one is a pundit. Are you and yours so far gone that you can’t tell the difference? (Don’t get me wrong, I can’t tell the difference when those two sources are compared, but I’m supposed to be the “knuckle-dragging” one here.)

]]> By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-14539 peter Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:00:08 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-14539 Not at all -- merely responding to the part of the excerpt which suggested that Republicans "advocate views shared by a majority of voters." If you use Presidential elections as a yardstick, the Democrats won the popular vote in 2000 by one percent, and lost it in 2004 by roughly two percent. It is a logical question to ask why the electorate is so evenly divided if a majority of voters agree with Republican principles. Not at all — merely responding to the part of the excerpt which suggested that Republicans “advocate views shared by a majority of voters.” If you use Presidential elections as a yardstick, the Democrats won the popular vote in 2000 by one percent, and lost it in 2004 by roughly two percent. It is a logical question to ask why the electorate is so evenly divided if a majority of voters agree with Republican principles.

]]> By: Muffin the Cat http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-14538 Muffin the Cat Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:46:38 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-14538 <i>If the 2004 election were held again today, do you seriously think that George Bush would win?</i> Who cares? Are you still trying to recount the 2004 election? It is over Peter. Kerry lost. What difference does it make at this point and why do many Democrats and the Rats in the Press keep bringing this issue up? Are you that frustrated? I'm not. I’m still quite happy with my vote in November 2004. Remember Bush still has not quite three years left (actually 1036 days) on his term. First place only counts on October 1st, not January 31st of the next year. You may be right that more voters selected Democratic Senators in the last election but that statistic is meaningless. We do not live in Democracy. We live in a Republic. Please go read the Constitution. The US has one chamber with proportional representation and one chamber with equal representation. Gives the small states more power. I think it was set up this way on purpose. It’s not my fault that most of the states that have elected Democrats are high population states whereas most of the states that have elected Repubs are low population states. I still think there is a good chance he will get another Supreme Court nominee. Can’t wait. I hope he picks Janice Rogers Brown. If the 2004 election were held again today, do you seriously think that George Bush would win? Who cares?

Are you still trying to recount the 2004 election? It is over Peter. Kerry lost. What difference does it make at this point and why do many Democrats and the Rats in the Press keep bringing this issue up? Are you that frustrated? I’m not. I’m still quite happy with my vote in November 2004. Remember Bush still has not quite three years left (actually 1036 days) on his term. First place only counts on October 1st, not January 31st of the next year.

You may be right that more voters selected Democratic Senators in the last election but that statistic is meaningless. We do not live in Democracy. We live in a Republic. Please go read the Constitution. The US has one chamber with proportional representation and one chamber with equal representation. Gives the small states more power. I think it was set up this way on purpose. It’s not my fault that most of the states that have elected Democrats are high population states whereas most of the states that have elected Repubs are low population states.

I still think there is a good chance he will get another Supreme Court nominee. Can’t wait. I hope he picks Janice Rogers Brown.

]]> By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/comment-page-1/#comment-14537 peter Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:31:36 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/03/21/red-america-strikes-at-the-wapo/#comment-14537 ” If the 2004 election were held again today, do you seriously think that George Bush would win?” If it was still between him and Kerry, hell yes. No way -- with everything that has gone on in the past two years, Kerry would bounce Bush's head down the court like a basketball -- ” If the 2004 election were held again today, do you seriously think that George Bush would win?”

If it was still between him and Kerry, hell yes.

No way — with everything that has gone on in the past two years, Kerry would bounce Bush’s head down the court like a basketball –

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