Comments on: The War of the Polls http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/14/the-war-of-the-polls/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: mikebdot http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/14/the-war-of-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-24663 mikebdot Wed, 17 May 2006 18:44:47 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/14/the-war-of-the-polls/#comment-24663 Aaron, the link you provided are just 10 plots that were foiled, but not necessarily because of the NSA program. Liberal oasis (did you read the link?) said that none have been confirmed because it's "classified". My point was that if it was confirmed that plots had been foiled because of the program the media coverage might be more friendly (like with the meth lab stories). Not trying to say anything further. I am a moderate. I dislike both conservative and liberal talking heads, but tend to vote for democrats because I value privacy over money. I can always make more money if needed, but I would be perfectly content paying an additional $2-4K per year (which is probably the difference between Kerry and Bush, even though I'm now paying an additional $1-2K/year since interest rates on college loans have increased and you know as well as I how much Rose-Hulman sticks it to you, or maybe you won't be paying for it like I was forced to...) Aaron, the link you provided are just 10 plots that were foiled, but not necessarily because of the NSA program. Liberal oasis (did you read the link?) said that none have been confirmed because it’s “classified”. My point was that if it was confirmed that plots had been foiled because of the program the media coverage might be more friendly (like with the meth lab stories). Not trying to say anything further.

I am a moderate. I dislike both conservative and liberal talking heads, but tend to vote for democrats because I value privacy over money. I can always make more money if needed, but I would be perfectly content paying an additional $2-4K per year (which is probably the difference between Kerry and Bush, even though I’m now paying an additional $1-2K/year since interest rates on college loans have increased and you know as well as I how much Rose-Hulman sticks it to you, or maybe you won’t be paying for it like I was forced to…)

]]> By: Aaron http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/14/the-war-of-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-24311 Aaron Tue, 16 May 2006 00:30:05 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/14/the-war-of-the-polls/#comment-24311 No attacks foiled at all? Really? <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/09/whitehouse.plots/index.html" rel="nofollow">CNN</a> says there are 10. I'd say that's probably a more reliable source than "liberal oasis." And perhaps I'm remembering this incorrectly, mike, but didn't you say you were a moderate? No attacks foiled at all? Really? CNN says there are 10. I’d say that’s probably a more reliable source than “liberal oasis.” And perhaps I’m remembering this incorrectly, mike, but didn’t you say you were a moderate?

]]> By: Neo http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/14/the-war-of-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-24260 Neo Mon, 15 May 2006 13:35:22 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/14/the-war-of-the-polls/#comment-24260 Based on these two links, I'd say that the latest NSA program is quite legal, well at least if they buy them, like everybody else. <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-privacy05.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-privacy05.html</a> <a href="http://www.democrats.com/spy-on-them" rel="nofollow">http://www.democrats.com/spy-on-them</a> This would render these polls, this issue, moot. Based on these two links, I’d say that the latest NSA program is quite legal, well at least if they buy them, like everybody else.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-privacy05.html

http://www.democrats.com/spy-on-them

This would render these polls, this issue, moot.

]]> By: mikebdot http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/14/the-war-of-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-24258 mikebdot Mon, 15 May 2006 13:26:53 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/14/the-war-of-the-polls/#comment-24258 What is the difference between making a list of calls people make in an effort to find patterns to stop terrorism and making a list of people who buy certain cold/sinus medicines at their local pharmacy in an effort to find patterns for people who are making meth? The negative media attention for the NSA records far outweighs that of the meth issue (most reporting I've seen has been positive on collecting those records, especially when people are caught), so, why the dichotomy? Might be because there haven't been any terrorists with foiled plans making it into the news...<a href="http://www.liberaloasis.com/archives/051406.htm#051506" rel="nofollow">or none at all?</a> Damn classified programs... What is the difference between making a list of calls people make in an effort to find patterns to stop terrorism and making a list of people who buy certain cold/sinus medicines at their local pharmacy in an effort to find patterns for people who are making meth? The negative media attention for the NSA records far outweighs that of the meth issue (most reporting I’ve seen has been positive on collecting those records, especially when people are caught), so, why the dichotomy? Might be because there haven’t been any terrorists with foiled plans making it into the news…or none at all? Damn classified programs…

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