Comments on: Brian Ross: Big Brother Is Watching http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:29:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Right Wing Nut House http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-24310 Right Wing Nut House Tue, 16 May 2006 00:26:04 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/#comment-24310 <strong>ABC NEWS CALL MONITORING: WHAT’S GOING ON?</strong> Trying to have any kind of a conversation with a liberal over the revelation today that a government insider informed ABC News reporters that the government was “tracking” their phone numbers is an absolute impossibility. They are in hyste... ABC NEWS CALL MONITORING: WHAT’S GOING ON?

Trying to have any kind of a conversation with a liberal over the revelation today that a government insider informed ABC News reporters that the government was “tracking” their phone numbers is an absolute impossibility. They are in hyste…

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-24296 Mark Mon, 15 May 2006 22:06:30 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/#comment-24296 Well, Jacques, I think it's just one more reason why we need an overhauled surveillance framework - to nail down what is or isn't permissable, and to get the oversight in place. Sure, there's some overlap with FISA - but I'm thinking bigger - God knows the blue-ribbon commission is an overused, seldom-acted-upon option, but this might be a good case for one. I'm talking more targeted than the 9/11 commission, and focused on the issue of surveillance, both foreign and domestic... Well, Jacques, I think it’s just one more reason why we need an overhauled surveillance framework – to nail down what is or isn’t permissable, and to get the oversight in place. Sure, there’s some overlap with FISA – but I’m thinking bigger – God knows the blue-ribbon commission is an overused, seldom-acted-upon option, but this might be a good case for one. I’m talking more targeted than the 9/11 commission, and focused on the issue of surveillance, both foreign and domestic…

]]> By: Jacques Distler http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-24295 Jacques Distler Mon, 15 May 2006 22:01:12 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/#comment-24295 Not to put too fine a point on it, but the thrust of my <a href='http://decision08.net/2006/05/12/the-public-supports-bush/#comment-24142' rel="nofollow">previous comment</a> is that, once you hand the Government the complete phone records of (nearly) everyone in America, there is <em>no</em> institutional impediment to this sort of (alleged) abuse. Sure it's a "useful tool" for tracking down terrorists. It's also useful for a lot of other things. And there's no one — not a judge, not Congress — standing in the way of those other uses. It's one thing to put a very low threshold for obtaining the phone records of any individual or group of people who might be even vaguely suspicious. It's quite another to hand over <em>everyone's</em> phone records and say, "Have fun with them." Not to put too fine a point on it, but the thrust of my previous comment is that, once you hand the Government the complete phone records of (nearly) everyone in America, there is no institutional impediment to this sort of (alleged) abuse.

Sure it’s a “useful tool” for tracking down terrorists. It’s also useful for a lot of other things. And there’s no one — not a judge, not Congress — standing in the way of those other uses.

It’s one thing to put a very low threshold for obtaining the phone records of any individual or group of people who might be even vaguely suspicious. It’s quite another to hand over everyone’s phone records and say, “Have fun with them.”

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-24288 Mark Mon, 15 May 2006 19:19:45 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/#comment-24288 Good questions all, and I'm certainly not going to jump to any conclusions based on this one short article... Good questions all, and I’m certainly not going to jump to any conclusions based on this one short article…

]]> By: too many steves http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-24286 too many steves Mon, 15 May 2006 19:11:53 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/15/brian-ross-big-brother-is-watching/#comment-24286 did the government get warrants to focus on these targeted individuals? is it investigating the leak of classified information? did the government get warrants to focus on these targeted individuals? is it investigating the leak of classified information?

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