Comments on: A Parallel That Can’t Be Ignored http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » National Post Apologizes For ‘Jew Labeling’ Story http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-31540 Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » National Post Apologizes For ‘Jew Labeling’ Story Thu, 25 May 2006 03:18:24 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-31540 [...] The Canadian paper that alarmed so many, myself included, with its story of distinguishing clothing for Jews in Iran, has completely backed away now: The National Post ran the piece on its front page Friday along with a large photo from 1944 that showed a Hungarian couple wearing the yellow stars that the Nazis forced Jews to sew to their clothing. [...] [...] The Canadian paper that alarmed so many, myself included, with its story of distinguishing clothing for Jews in Iran, has completely backed away now: The National Post ran the piece on its front page Friday along with a large photo from 1944 that showed a Hungarian couple wearing the yellow stars that the Nazis forced Jews to sew to their clothing. [...]

]]> By: RedRose http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-30415 RedRose Mon, 22 May 2006 18:00:32 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-30415 and this is in response to All Things Beautiful: you mentioned on ur blog that they grouped Christians and Jews together as "Infidels". Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. Along with Zoroastrians, Christians and Jews are protected under the iranian government. they don't have conscription, don't pay two huge taxes, and are allowed to take off their own holidays, and drink alcohol which is otherwise strictly forbidden. as well, they are guaranteed atleast one representative in parliament, despite their populational proportion (i.e. less than 25000 jews get one MP while another MP resides over 4 million other voters). They are most certainly NOT considered infidels, they are considered "People of the Book", which means their religions are considered true (adn according to Islam a true christian and a true jew are granted entry into heaven like a true muslim). Secondly, with Omar...i don't believe u even know how much hatred iranians have for that man. When the arabs took over persia, those restrictions fell to race, not religion. persian muslims were still considered less than arabs. for instance, one of omar's decrees was that if an iranian, even if muslim, were to be riding a horse and he passed by an arab walking, he would have to give up that horse. it was a pan-arab nationalistic ideology that spurred these ridiculous laws and limitations, not the religion itself. and this is in response to All Things Beautiful: you mentioned on ur blog that they grouped Christians and Jews together as “Infidels”. Obviously you don’t know what you are talking about. Along with Zoroastrians, Christians and Jews are protected under the iranian government. they don’t have conscription, don’t pay two huge taxes, and are allowed to take off their own holidays, and drink alcohol which is otherwise strictly forbidden. as well, they are guaranteed atleast one representative in parliament, despite their populational proportion (i.e. less than 25000 jews get one MP while another MP resides over 4 million other voters). They are most certainly NOT considered infidels, they are considered “People of the Book”, which means their religions are considered true (adn according to Islam a true christian and a true jew are granted entry into heaven like a true muslim). Secondly, with Omar…i don’t believe u even know how much hatred iranians have for that man. When the arabs took over persia, those restrictions fell to race, not religion. persian muslims were still considered less than arabs. for instance, one of omar’s decrees was that if an iranian, even if muslim, were to be riding a horse and he passed by an arab walking, he would have to give up that horse. it was a pan-arab nationalistic ideology that spurred these ridiculous laws and limitations, not the religion itself.

]]> By: RedRose http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-30411 RedRose Mon, 22 May 2006 17:51:03 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-30411 Well Mark, thank you for pointing out that the story was doubtful, AFTER it had already been posted on countless blogs and of course, the National Post, as being true (damn right wingers). I'm glad you managed to post that the story was appearing as false, but that doesn't reverse the tide of slurring against the Iranian regime. The falsified reports got such huge media coverage and Prime Minister Harper was so quick to act on it, but now that it has been proven false, where are the apologies which I am sure would have been presented along with strong retractments by these same spreaders of this story had the false story been about Israeli actions? Nowhere to be seen that's for sure. I'm not saying that as a collective we in Canada and the US are this bad, but it sure seems as though most of our media and government are. Well Mark, thank you for pointing out that the story was doubtful, AFTER it had already been posted on countless blogs and of course, the National Post, as being true (damn right wingers). I’m glad you managed to post that the story was appearing as false, but that doesn’t reverse the tide of slurring against the Iranian regime. The falsified reports got such huge media coverage and Prime Minister Harper was so quick to act on it, but now that it has been proven false, where are the apologies which I am sure would have been presented along with strong retractments by these same spreaders of this story had the false story been about Israeli actions? Nowhere to be seen that’s for sure. I’m not saying that as a collective we in Canada and the US are this bad, but it sure seems as though most of our media and government are.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-28937 Mark Sun, 21 May 2006 16:26:19 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-28937 Brian - same message to you - can't you read? If so, you'll notice that I quickly noted the story is doubtful... Brian – same message to you – can’t you read? If so, you’ll notice that I quickly noted the story is doubtful…

]]> By: Brian Coughlan http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-28925 Brian Coughlan Sun, 21 May 2006 15:56:10 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-28925 You guys were quick off the mark spreading the latest "look they really are the Nazis!" slur. I guarantee this drivel will be quoted on right wing blogs as fact for the next 5 years. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060519/wl_mideast_afp/iranrightsreligion_060519200726 Golly, Iran has a jewish MP, who knew? Maybe this "black ops" slur will have a positive effect. You guys were quick off the mark spreading the latest “look they really are the Nazis!” slur. I guarantee this drivel will be quoted on right wing blogs as fact for the next 5 years.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060519/wl_mideast_afp/iranrightsreligion_060519200726

Golly, Iran has a jewish MP, who knew? Maybe this “black ops” slur will have a positive effect.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-27540 Mark Sat, 20 May 2006 18:37:55 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-27540 Jeez, RedRose, you wanna read the comments before you accuse us of being patsies? Start with the one right above yours... Jeez, RedRose, you wanna read the comments before you accuse us of being patsies? Start with the one right above yours…

]]> By: RedRose http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-27243 RedRose Sat, 20 May 2006 17:13:09 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-27243 Obviously no one here has heard that this story was falsified, and retracted. This was completely on the testimony of iranian expats (not exactly the most reliable source for news in iran) and spread by the simon wiesenthal centre as truth. I wonder if the islamic congress of canada had said similar things about israel whether this would be front page national post, and what the retributions of it being proven false and utterly unfounded. i doubt any apology would be issued. it just shows the obvious media bias and slandering campaign against the iranian government. perhaps people should take a look at the current humanitarian crisis in palestine now. arab israelis are considered second class citizens, and an illegal wall is being set up and no one is doing anything about it. there is an obvious ghettoization going on. that seems to me far more reminiscent of the nazi regime than a false report. makes youreally think, eh? Obviously no one here has heard that this story was falsified, and retracted. This was completely on the testimony of iranian expats (not exactly the most reliable source for news in iran) and spread by the simon wiesenthal centre as truth. I wonder if the islamic congress of canada had said similar things about israel whether this would be front page national post, and what the retributions of it being proven false and utterly unfounded. i doubt any apology would be issued. it just shows the obvious media bias and slandering campaign against the iranian government. perhaps people should take a look at the current humanitarian crisis in palestine now. arab israelis are considered second class citizens, and an illegal wall is being set up and no one is doing anything about it. there is an obvious ghettoization going on. that seems to me far more reminiscent of the nazi regime than a false report. makes youreally think, eh?

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-26636 Mark Sat, 20 May 2006 00:56:48 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-26636 See my latest post for an update...it's looking like the story is (thank God) untrue, or at least highly doubtful... See my latest post for an update…it’s looking like the story is (thank God) untrue, or at least highly doubtful…

]]> By: RPL http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-26633 RPL Fri, 19 May 2006 23:41:13 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-26633 And so it begins. Given the pre-occupation with painting Iraq as another Vietnam, I would view this as another 1938. Here we go again. And so it begins. Given the pre-occupation with painting Iraq as another Vietnam, I would view this as another 1938. Here we go again.

]]> By: Evan http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/comment-page-1/#comment-26631 Evan Fri, 19 May 2006 23:06:06 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/05/19/a-parallel-that-cant-be-ignored/#comment-26631 Thanks for clearing that up, Mark. I didn't know whether the Drudge link was the same story you had posted or not. Thanks for clearing that up, Mark. I didn’t know whether the Drudge link was the same story you had posted or not.

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