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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/24/an-inconvenient-review/comment-page-1/#comment-32649</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 17:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On the contrary, prosperity is part of the solution here - the richest countries can afford to build cleaner cars and energy plants.&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;b&gt;dmac,&lt;/b&gt; I didn&#039;t make myself very clear here. I generally agree with you that the natural market probably holds a better solution than any government bureaucrat. My (poorly made) point was that the most vociferous enviornmentalists often treat prosperity as the chief culprit, and that if we all were required by government fiat to live in smaller houses, drive smaller cars, stay cooped up in cities, etc., all our problems would be solved. And in a democracy, this constant &quot;eat your spinach&quot; moralistic hectoring isn&#039;t likely to help your cause much (just as, despite all the hue and cry about the religious right, they&#039;ve been spectacularly unsuccessful in lecturing Americans back into some straitlaced world).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On the contrary, prosperity is part of the solution here &#8211; the richest countries can afford to build cleaner cars and energy plants.</p></blockquote>
<p> <b>dmac,</b> I didn&#8217;t make myself very clear here. I generally agree with you that the natural market probably holds a better solution than any government bureaucrat. My (poorly made) point was that the most vociferous enviornmentalists often treat prosperity as the chief culprit, and that if we all were required by government fiat to live in smaller houses, drive smaller cars, stay cooped up in cities, etc., all our problems would be solved. And in a democracy, this constant &#8220;eat your spinach&#8221; moralistic hectoring isn&#8217;t likely to help your cause much (just as, despite all the hue and cry about the religious right, they&#8217;ve been spectacularly unsuccessful in lecturing Americans back into some straitlaced world).</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/24/an-inconvenient-review/comment-page-1/#comment-31658</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 06:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be interested in hearing a debate on this subject featuring Dr. Robert C. Balling Jr.
  
Inconvenient Truths Indeed 

&quot;....An Inconvenient Truth&quot; is billed as the scariest movie you&#039;ll ever see. It may well be, but that&#039;s in part because it is not the most accurate depiction of the state of global warming science. The enormous uncertainties surrounding the global warming issue are conveniently missing in &quot;An Inconvenient Truth.....&quot; 

Dr. Robert C. Balling Jr. is a professor in the climatology program at Arizona State University, specializing in climate change and the greenhouse effect.

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=052406F</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested in hearing a debate on this subject featuring Dr. Robert C. Balling Jr.</p>
<p>Inconvenient Truths Indeed </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.An Inconvenient Truth&#8221; is billed as the scariest movie you&#8217;ll ever see. It may well be, but that&#8217;s in part because it is not the most accurate depiction of the state of global warming science. The enormous uncertainties surrounding the global warming issue are conveniently missing in &#8220;An Inconvenient Truth&#8230;..&#8221; </p>
<p>Dr. Robert C. Balling Jr. is a professor in the climatology program at Arizona State University, specializing in climate change and the greenhouse effect.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=052406F" rel="nofollow">http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=052406F</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gwedd</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/05/24/an-inconvenient-review/comment-page-1/#comment-31531</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 00:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comrades,

     Actually, the climate is most likely returning to it&#039;s normal temperature. The cause of rising temperatures is not, it turns out, particulates in the atmosphere, but the lack of them.

     It seems that those nasty old chimneys and factories spewing tons of particulates into the air reflected a greater portion of the sun&#039;s radiation, thereby cooling the planet... much like that predicted for a &quot;nuclear winter&quot;. When areas like California imposed strict emissions guidelines, it caused a significant reduction in atmospheric particulates, and an accompanying rise in temperature. 

     Seems clean air is warm air. Perhaps a better analogy is Gore air is Hot air...

      Respects,

         Gwedd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comrades,</p>
<p>     Actually, the climate is most likely returning to it&#8217;s normal temperature. The cause of rising temperatures is not, it turns out, particulates in the atmosphere, but the lack of them.</p>
<p>     It seems that those nasty old chimneys and factories spewing tons of particulates into the air reflected a greater portion of the sun&#8217;s radiation, thereby cooling the planet&#8230; much like that predicted for a &#8220;nuclear winter&#8221;. When areas like California imposed strict emissions guidelines, it caused a significant reduction in atmospheric particulates, and an accompanying rise in temperature. </p>
<p>     Seems clean air is warm air. Perhaps a better analogy is Gore air is Hot air&#8230;</p>
<p>      Respects,</p>
<p>         Gwedd</p>
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		<title>By: rwixom</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 23:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that the average person in China or India is not likely to be prosperous anytime soon.  If they all start using more electricity and driving crap cars, we are quickly screwed.  If the relatively small number of propserous people start driving hybrids or even start riding bikes, will that counter the effects of industrialization of the third-world?  Take a look at a plot of total world population and compare it to a plot of atmospheric CO2 concentration.  They look pretty similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that the average person in China or India is not likely to be prosperous anytime soon.  If they all start using more electricity and driving crap cars, we are quickly screwed.  If the relatively small number of propserous people start driving hybrids or even start riding bikes, will that counter the effects of industrialization of the third-world?  Take a look at a plot of total world population and compare it to a plot of atmospheric CO2 concentration.  They look pretty similar.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 21:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the contrary, prosperity is part of the solution here - the richest countries can afford to build cleaner cars and energy plants. The question is the will and the appropriate means to do so - and given that recent auto figures have confirmed the abrupt shift to high - mileage cars, perhaps the marketplace can adjust to the problem on its own, without excessive gov&#039;t regulations or incentives. 

Poor countries will be the primary cause of excessive emissions in the coming years, so the sooner they become prosperous, the less they will eventually contribute to the overall problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the contrary, prosperity is part of the solution here &#8211; the richest countries can afford to build cleaner cars and energy plants. The question is the will and the appropriate means to do so &#8211; and given that recent auto figures have confirmed the abrupt shift to high &#8211; mileage cars, perhaps the marketplace can adjust to the problem on its own, without excessive gov&#8217;t regulations or incentives. </p>
<p>Poor countries will be the primary cause of excessive emissions in the coming years, so the sooner they become prosperous, the less they will eventually contribute to the overall problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 20:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be surprised by any gasping; this is the Cannes choir he&#039;s preaching to, don&#039;t forget.

Actually, I think it is a topic that is worth pursuing, although it bugs me when I see its most ardent proponents treating it as a partisan problem. It seems to me that there&#039;s not much support from any politician for pursuing a message that, at its core, says that prosperity is hurting us. Because it&#039;s the resource-draining nature of prosperity that ultimately is the culprit behind global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised by any gasping; this is the Cannes choir he&#8217;s preaching to, don&#8217;t forget.</p>
<p>Actually, I think it is a topic that is worth pursuing, although it bugs me when I see its most ardent proponents treating it as a partisan problem. It seems to me that there&#8217;s not much support from any politician for pursuing a message that, at its core, says that prosperity is hurting us. Because it&#8217;s the resource-draining nature of prosperity that ultimately is the culprit behind global warming.</p>
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