Comments on: Bush Seeks To Capitalize On Recent Momentum http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Joe http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-46116 Joe Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:29:30 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-46116 dmac, you are totally correct. I am NOT excusing the local government of New Orleans at all. I have heard some horror stories from locals there, and still, nothing is really being done. Mark, I bet that we are down to ~100K troops in Iraq by the November elections. I hope that we can afford to reduce troops, and not do it as just a political ploy. Although, as some of the documents that are coming out say, maybe the insurgency is weakening....(insert wild hope here) dmac, you are totally correct. I am NOT excusing the local government of New Orleans at all. I have heard some horror stories from locals there, and still, nothing is really being done. Mark, I bet that we are down to ~100K troops in Iraq by the November elections. I hope that we can afford to reduce troops, and not do it as just a political ploy. Although, as some of the documents that are coming out say, maybe the insurgency is weakening….(insert wild hope here)

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-46019 Mark Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:39:16 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-46019 Well, I didn't see the speech, but I do suspect that people will, like yourself, grow tired of the 'As Iraqis stand up...' line - that's why I do expect an announcement of some token reduction in force levels fairly soon... Well, I didn’t see the speech, but I do suspect that people will, like yourself, grow tired of the ‘As Iraqis stand up…’ line – that’s why I do expect an announcement of some token reduction in force levels fairly soon…

]]> By: mikebdot http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-46000 mikebdot Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:55:39 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-46000 His press conference yesterday (6/14) after returning was a national embarrassment. The speech wasn't that bad (if you can excuse the awful reading of it), but the Q&A session was an absolute disgrace. His "needling" of reporters is not cute anymore. And no, I don't care about the sunglasses thing. Honest mistake when you're a stand-up comedian I suppose, which is for some reason, what he tries to be. Seriously, WTF is his problem? I can't find the transcript of the speech online or the Q&A, but, ick. I do not understand why the right is not publicly embarrassed by him. I guess that's a sign a strength or something? Oh, a reporter did indeed ask what measure would be used to remove troops and he skirted the question fairly easily by saying there are various measures and we would use them, but never saying when we might make the decisions to redeploy. "As Iraqis stand up, we'll stand down". Are we going to be infinitely patient for them to stand up? His press conference yesterday (6/14) after returning was a national embarrassment. The speech wasn’t that bad (if you can excuse the awful reading of it), but the Q&A session was an absolute disgrace. His “needling” of reporters is not cute anymore. And no, I don’t care about the sunglasses thing. Honest mistake when you’re a stand-up comedian I suppose, which is for some reason, what he tries to be. Seriously, WTF is his problem? I can’t find the transcript of the speech online or the Q&A, but, ick. I do not understand why the right is not publicly embarrassed by him. I guess that’s a sign a strength or something?

Oh, a reporter did indeed ask what measure would be used to remove troops and he skirted the question fairly easily by saying there are various measures and we would use them, but never saying when we might make the decisions to redeploy. “As Iraqis stand up, we’ll stand down”. Are we going to be infinitely patient for them to stand up?

]]> By: jeff http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-45826 jeff Thu, 15 Jun 2006 04:30:28 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-45826 Mega: Kosovo was less deadly As of 2 months ago, Korean War was shorter. In november of this year, american involvement in WWII will have been shorter. If in five years Iraq is not a neutral to unfriendly Islamic republic, or broken into three federated nations, I will be pleasantly surprised. Time will tell if Iraq was "worth it" but please, for god's sake, don't imply it was run well just because fewer americans* died than they did in a 7 year long disaster or a war spread over 3 continents. *I know you don't count iraqi casualties since 2003 cause they aren't us but that's higher than Kosovo also. Maybe higher than Koreans killed in the Korean war but I don't have those numbers handy. Mega:
Kosovo was less deadly
As of 2 months ago, Korean War was shorter.
In november of this year, american involvement in WWII will have been shorter.
If in five years Iraq is not a neutral to unfriendly Islamic republic, or broken into three federated nations, I will be pleasantly surprised. Time will tell if Iraq was “worth it” but please, for god’s sake, don’t imply it was run well just because fewer americans* died than they did in a 7 year long disaster or a war spread over 3 continents.
*I know you don’t count iraqi casualties since 2003 cause they aren’t us but that’s higher than Kosovo also. Maybe higher than Koreans killed in the Korean war but I don’t have those numbers handy.

]]> By: megapotamus http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-45720 megapotamus Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:50:25 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-45720 I'm still waiting for some historical comparison that can declare the Bush/Katrina response sub-par, much less some sort of "disaster" or debacle or whatever is the term of art describing the respiratory habits of George Bush these days. Hey, hurricanes happen. They happened under Bush and they will happen post-Bush. Let's see some fair numbers on fatalities that corrects for the level of development in the Delta. Of course we also await such an analysis of Iraq which, as far as I can tell comparing to WWII, Korea, Kosovo and VN, has been the LEAST deadly conflict, considering all variable, in history. Comments? I’m still waiting for some historical comparison that can declare the Bush/Katrina response sub-par, much less some sort of “disaster” or debacle or whatever is the term of art describing the respiratory habits of George Bush these days. Hey, hurricanes happen. They happened under Bush and they will happen post-Bush. Let’s see some fair numbers on fatalities that corrects for the level of development in the Delta. Of course we also await such an analysis of Iraq which, as far as I can tell comparing to WWII, Korea, Kosovo and VN, has been the LEAST deadly conflict, considering all variable, in history. Comments?

]]> By: dmac http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-45671 dmac Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:45:07 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-45671 "He did fail New Orleans." To a certain extent he surely did - but you also have to include their local representatives, who utterly failed in their evacuation planning (meaning they never implemented one), along with their idiot mayor (same reason), and also include the lovely Governor, who refused National Guard assistance on the day of the Hurricane itself. Lots of blame to go around on this one, and the corrupt city and state governments of LA played a large part in the disaster and the aftermath. “He did fail New Orleans.”

To a certain extent he surely did – but you also have to include their local representatives, who utterly failed in their evacuation planning (meaning they never implemented one), along with their idiot mayor (same reason), and also include the lovely Governor, who refused National Guard assistance on the day of the Hurricane itself. Lots of blame to go around on this one, and the corrupt city and state governments of LA played a large part in the disaster and the aftermath.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-45600 Mark Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:43:23 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-45600 Yep, the sarcasm level was pretty high... Yep, the sarcasm level was pretty high…

]]> By: Joe http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-45581 Joe Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:58:24 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-45581 Please pardon me, Mark, but are you being sarcastic about no one thinking that New Orleans would be in trouble from a hurricane? I am just curious, b/c I have seen more than enough reports and specials that say the oposite. The weather channel made a program about a hurricane hitting New Orleans in "It could happen tomorrow", but never showed it because it did happen. You are correct, though, Bush is not responsible for the weather. He is in charge of the government, and the failures that occur under his watch are ultimately his responsibility. He did fail New Orleans. On that same note, the fact that we got Zarqaui is a fact that shows that Bush can accomplish some good things as well, as he should get credit for the successes as well as blame for the failures. Please pardon me, Mark, but are you being sarcastic about no one thinking that New Orleans would be in trouble from a hurricane? I am just curious, b/c I have seen more than enough reports and specials that say the oposite. The weather channel made a program about a hurricane hitting New Orleans in “It could happen tomorrow”, but never showed it because it did happen. You are correct, though, Bush is not responsible for the weather. He is in charge of the government, and the failures that occur under his watch are ultimately his responsibility. He did fail New Orleans. On that same note, the fact that we got Zarqaui is a fact that shows that Bush can accomplish some good things as well, as he should get credit for the successes as well as blame for the failures.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-45576 Mark Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:47:51 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-45576 Yes, jt, because Bush controls the weather, and no one EVER SUSPECTED New Orleans might be in trouble if a major hurricane hit it... Yes, jt, because Bush controls the weather, and no one EVER SUSPECTED New Orleans might be in trouble if a major hurricane hit it…

]]> By: JT http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/comment-page-1/#comment-45575 JT Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:46:34 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/14/bush-seeks-to-capitalize-on-recent-momentum/#comment-45575 ...and Hurricane season is starting up again. Which U.S. city will Bush lose this time? I'm rooting for Miami! …and Hurricane season is starting up again. Which U.S. city will Bush lose this time? I’m rooting for Miami!

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