Comments on: The U.S. Is Winning In Iraq http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: mtl http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-46632 mtl Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:46:13 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/#comment-46632 I'm getting a weird vibe on this whole Iran part. Iran's motives? Destabilize Iraq. Elevate the value of your own oil. Diminish Bush's stature at home. Weaken the US desire for foreign wars. It's all pretty simple. Except now there is an offer to 'help'. The timing is critical, because it comes immediately after a government had been established. The Zarqawi letter provides some critical insight- Sistani Shia are on the side of the US. (Interesting that Mookie only got 2000 people in the street to protest Bush-might it mean that his support is not as large as we have been led to believe? Were his followers away at work?) The insurgents percieved Iran as a tool, and most definitely not an ally. So what is Iran(potentially) doing now? Iraq is now a place where Shia is a plurality, and represented so in the govt. It is also the center of religion for Shia. Sistani who is the highest cleric in the religion is 'supportive' of the US. Iran is dealing with inner turmoil as the mullahs(they Shia, right?) are holding down about 80% of the population. It is very likely that sistani has many allies within the Iranian Shia, enough that the mullahs worry about taking action against his wishes. They can no longer make effort to destabilize. The govt is legit and could turn hostile. Does that mean Iran is no longer a threat? There is still a nihilistic group of clerics, that aid Hamas and would/have hid(e) UBL. Iran is being forced to come to terms with Iraq, and they have no other available long term plan other than establishing diplomatic relations-but all their schemes, if they have any, can't begin until the US is gone. Bush would be wise to send a letter to Mo Amjd telling him- "Your offer of help should be made to Iraq, not the US, they are a sovereign state." I’m getting a weird vibe on this whole Iran part.

Iran’s motives? Destabilize Iraq. Elevate the value of your own oil. Diminish Bush’s stature at home. Weaken the US desire for foreign wars.

It’s all pretty simple.

Except now there is an offer to ‘help’. The timing is critical, because it comes immediately after a government had been established. The Zarqawi letter provides some critical insight-

Sistani Shia are on the side of the US. (Interesting that Mookie only got 2000 people in the street to protest Bush-might it mean that his support is not as large as we have been led to believe? Were his followers away at work?)

The insurgents percieved Iran as a tool, and most definitely not an ally.

So what is Iran(potentially) doing now?

Iraq is now a place where Shia is a plurality, and represented so in the govt. It is also the center of religion for Shia. Sistani who is the highest cleric in the religion is ‘supportive’ of the US. Iran is dealing with inner turmoil as the mullahs(they Shia, right?) are holding down about 80% of the population. It is very likely that sistani has many allies within the Iranian Shia, enough that the mullahs worry about taking action against his wishes.

They can no longer make effort to destabilize. The govt is legit and could turn hostile.

Does that mean Iran is no longer a threat? There is still a nihilistic group of clerics, that aid Hamas and would/have hid(e) UBL. Iran is being forced to come to terms with Iraq, and they have no other available long term plan other than establishing diplomatic relations-but all their schemes, if they have any, can’t begin until the US is gone.

Bush would be wise to send a letter to Mo Amjd telling him-
“Your offer of help should be made to Iraq, not the US, they are a sovereign state.”

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-46403 Mark Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:13:36 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/#comment-46403 No, not Mission Accomplished - but not Mission Failed, either... No, not Mission Accomplished – but not Mission Failed, either…

]]> By: Hokie Explorer http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-46367 Hokie Explorer Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:26:31 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/#comment-46367 Mission Accomplished Mission Accomplished

]]> By: mtl http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-46257 mtl Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:38:13 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/#comment-46257 JFK sez: Al-Queda has got nuthin' on the yakuza. JFK sez:

Al-Queda has got nuthin’ on the yakuza.

]]> By: David M. Smith http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-46179 David M. Smith Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:22:25 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/15/the-us-is-winning-in-iraq/#comment-46179 Great work Mark. This is just more evidence of a Bush conspiracy and cover up. al-Zarqawi was working for the administration all along. Cheney must have orchestrated this while the media was focused on Rove. Those Neo-Con’s are good, but not as good as your investigative blogging. Keep up the great work. Great work Mark. This is just more evidence of a Bush conspiracy and cover up. al-Zarqawi was working for the administration all along. Cheney must have orchestrated this while the media was focused on Rove. Those Neo-Con’s are good, but not as good as your investigative blogging. Keep up the great work.

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