Comments on: The Most Ridiculous Editorial Of The Month Thus Far… http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: mtl http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-50462 mtl Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:14:38 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-50462 This is the point where I link to the thousands of stories accounting for 100,000 plus people killed by his orders. "That doesn’t make him crazy." ohh-kaay. I'm big on moral relativism, but even Peter Singer would gag. This is the point where I link to the thousands of stories accounting for 100,000 plus people killed by his orders.

“That doesn’t make him crazy.”

ohh-kaay. I’m big on moral relativism, but even Peter Singer would gag.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-49966 Mark Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:31:33 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-49966 Hokie, there aren't many certainties in this world, but here's one: the U.S. is wargaming the hell out of the North Korean situation, and has been for some time... How would you or I know if they were covertly moving assets into place - do you think they will take out an advertisement? In any event, you can be sure that all military options are being considered. Think about it for a minute...really...and you can't possibly doubt it... Hokie, there aren’t many certainties in this world, but here’s one: the U.S. is wargaming the hell out of the North Korean situation, and has been for some time…

How would you or I know if they were covertly moving assets into place – do you think they will take out an advertisement?

In any event, you can be sure that all military options are being considered. Think about it for a minute…really…and you can’t possibly doubt it…

]]> By: megapotamus http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-49962 megapotamus Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:21:21 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-49962 Hokie... two words. Salman Pak. What dat? That, hoss, which you have perhaps not come across in your hundreds of dissertations on the topic, is a military district on a spit of land in the Euphrates where Iraqi intelligence services trained foreign jihadis to hijack planes armed only with small knives, a tactic never seen in the wide, wide world before 9-11. Here's the bottom line and everyone who has declared, a priori, that Saddam did not and even more preposterously, would not involve himself with anything like the WTC adn Pentagon attacks... Saddam's bloody paw-prints are all over 9-11. You should limber up your throats now to make the slide in easier later. Salman Pak is just one incidence. You might Google up Ramzi Yousef. This cat is in the supermax facility in Nevada with Whacky Zacky Moussai and a few other notables. Actually no one knows his real name, Yousef was a false identity created under a Kuwaiti passport for this handmaid of Saddam's mukhbarat during the occupation. One shivers to think of the fate of the real Ramzi Yousef, if there ever was such a person but there is this well-known and redhanded jihadi, veteran of at least one large scale attack in the US homeland. He was the main technical consultant for the earlier WTC attack, the unsuccessful truck-bombing. Now, just because a guy would truck bomb ya doesn't mean he would hijack airliners and crash 'em into ya, but it is suggestive, no? Yes, but those who see no relevant humanity in the enslaved millions of Iraq, to say nothing of the rest of the ME; those who would look away from the rape rooms, the acid baths, the human pulping operations and all the bloody rest will have none of that. What a disgrace. As a capper, you might Google up Harold Baer, federal judge presiding over a civil trial that found Iraq as a state liable for 9-11 damages, principally Baer found that the Iraqi gov had prior knowledge of the 9-11 attacks. And no, we can't blame Saddam's crystal ball. So sell ignorance somewhere else. Saddam was as culpable for 9-11 as Ossama. Oh, unless it was Bush and Rummy remote piloting those planes... or there were no planes. And there were no attacks, see, it's all a plot to bolster Halliburton's bottom line before Cheney's stock options come due. See, there's this BIG soundstage in Burbank... Hokie… two words.
Salman Pak.
What dat?
That, hoss, which you have perhaps not come across in your hundreds of dissertations on the topic, is a military district on a spit of land in the Euphrates where Iraqi intelligence services trained foreign jihadis to hijack planes armed only with small knives, a tactic never seen in the wide, wide world before 9-11. Here’s the bottom line and everyone who has declared, a priori, that Saddam did not and even more preposterously, would not involve himself with anything like the WTC adn Pentagon attacks… Saddam’s bloody paw-prints are all over 9-11. You should limber up your throats now to make the slide in easier later. Salman Pak is just one incidence. You might Google up Ramzi Yousef. This cat is in the supermax facility in Nevada with Whacky Zacky Moussai and a few other notables. Actually no one knows his real name, Yousef was a false identity created under a Kuwaiti passport for this handmaid of Saddam’s mukhbarat during the occupation. One shivers to think of the fate of the real Ramzi Yousef, if there ever was such a person but there is this well-known and redhanded jihadi, veteran of at least one large scale attack in the US homeland. He was the main technical consultant for the earlier WTC attack, the unsuccessful truck-bombing. Now, just because a guy would truck bomb ya doesn’t mean he would hijack airliners and crash ‘em into ya, but it is suggestive, no? Yes, but those who see no relevant humanity in the enslaved millions of Iraq, to say nothing of the rest of the ME; those who would look away from the rape rooms, the acid baths, the human pulping operations and all the bloody rest will have none of that. What a disgrace. As a capper, you might Google up Harold Baer, federal judge presiding over a civil trial that found Iraq as a state liable for 9-11 damages, principally Baer found that the Iraqi gov had prior knowledge of the 9-11 attacks. And no, we can’t blame Saddam’s crystal ball. So sell ignorance somewhere else. Saddam was as culpable for 9-11 as Ossama. Oh, unless it was Bush and Rummy remote piloting those planes… or there were no planes. And there were no attacks, see, it’s all a plot to bolster Halliburton’s bottom line before Cheney’s stock options come due. See, there’s this BIG soundstage in Burbank…

]]> By: Hokie Explorer http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-49924 Hokie Explorer Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:51:15 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-49924 Israel can take care of itself. It won't be "nuked out of existence for the reasons that I have explained thousands of times. ------------------------- “Was Iraq an Afghanistan, supporting and funding terrorist activities within its borders?” Paying 25k openly, to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers- poof to lie number one from the dems. <strong>Within its borders</strong> ------------------------- “The bipartisan 911 commission ruled this out for us.” The only real opinion they gave was that Al-Queda was not operationally involved with 9/11. Go read the report. ------------------------- “Does Saddam being a brutal dictator have anything to do with the United States?” Did Saddam destabilize the ME, or help it? Neither, his neighbors minus maybe Israel didn't seem to be very worried about him. ------------------------- Hokie- Are you saying the U.S. and the rest of the world should have let Saddam have Kuwait in 1991? Did I say that? No, I didn't. ------------------------- Also, tell me which recent treaties (that have been confirmed through ratification by the Senate) the United States has broken, as you reference in your comment. I’m thinking you may have a hard time establishing credibility to such statements. Invading a country without provocation is against international law, I think we've all read the prison articles about human rights violations/Geneva convention, ect. ------------------------- “The guy isn’t a maniac, he is a politician” This is the point where I link to the thousands of stories accounting for 100,000 plus people killed by his orders. That doesn't make him crazy. I bet if he was examined by a psychologist they would find him clear and lucent. I bet he did that to maintain his grip on power... ------------------------- “Why would he give anyone a reason to attack him?” Yes, why not invite the US in his borders, without conditions, to prove he had disarmed? For the same reason any country won't invite another country accusing it if something in. Latest example, explosion on beach in Gaza... interntional committee wants to investigate, Israel says no. Why is that do you think? ------------------------- “Meanwhile we have North Korea test firing ICBM’s that can hit the west coast of the conus; and not a soul is suggesting military action against them.” http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/06/18/korea-missile.html “”All options are on the table,” said Thomas Schieffer, the U.S. ambassador to Japan.” Did he explicitally say military? Are we building up forces over there to stage a possible operation? Is Bush going to Congress asking for permission to use force over there? No no no no no. Israel can take care of itself. It won’t be “nuked out of existence for the reasons that I have explained thousands of times.

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“Was Iraq an Afghanistan, supporting and funding terrorist activities within its borders?”

Paying 25k openly, to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers-
poof to lie number one from the dems.

Within its borders

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“The bipartisan 911 commission ruled this out for us.”

The only real opinion they gave was that Al-Queda was not operationally involved with 9/11.

Go read the report.

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“Does Saddam being a brutal dictator have anything to do with the United States?”

Did Saddam destabilize the ME, or help it?

Neither, his neighbors minus maybe Israel didn’t seem to be very worried about him.

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Hokie-

Are you saying the U.S. and the rest of the world should have let Saddam have Kuwait in 1991?

Did I say that? No, I didn’t.

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Also, tell me which recent treaties (that have been confirmed through ratification by the Senate) the United States has broken, as you reference in your comment. I’m thinking you may have a hard time establishing credibility to such statements.

Invading a country without provocation is against international law, I think we’ve all read the prison articles about human rights violations/Geneva convention, ect.

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“The guy isn’t a maniac, he is a politician”

This is the point where I link to the thousands of stories accounting for 100,000 plus people killed by his orders.

That doesn’t make him crazy. I bet if he was examined by a psychologist they would find him clear and lucent. I bet he did that to maintain his grip on power…

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“Why would he give anyone a reason to attack him?”
Yes, why not invite the US in his borders, without conditions, to prove he had disarmed?

For the same reason any country won’t invite another country accusing it if something in. Latest example, explosion on beach in Gaza… interntional committee wants to investigate, Israel says no. Why is that do you think?

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“Meanwhile we have North Korea test firing ICBM’s that can hit the west coast of the conus; and not a soul is suggesting military action against them.”

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/06/18/korea-missile.html

“”All options are on the table,” said Thomas Schieffer, the U.S. ambassador to Japan.”

Did he explicitally say military? Are we building up forces over there to stage a possible operation? Is Bush going to Congress asking for permission to use force over there? No no no no no.

]]> By: dmac http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-49794 dmac Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:21:00 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-49794 "So what if they did have NBC weapons? Does that pose a threat to the United States?" I see - so if Israel is nuked out of existence, hey, it's not our problem. Lindbergh would've loved you, Hokey - Dokey. “So what if they did have NBC weapons? Does that pose a threat to the United States?”

I see – so if Israel is nuked out of existence, hey, it’s not our problem. Lindbergh would’ve loved you, Hokey – Dokey.

]]> By: mtl http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-49761 mtl Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:58:04 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-49761 Hokie- You seem to have lied about, or exagerated you own intel. As staed earlier, same thing in my book. Hokie-

You seem to have lied about, or exagerated you own intel. As staed earlier, same thing in my book.

]]> By: mtl http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-49752 mtl Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:54:48 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-49752 "Was Iraq an Afghanistan, supporting and funding terrorist activities within its borders?" Paying 25k openly, to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers- poof to lie number one from the dems. "I think the administration was hell bent on invading Iraq" before 9/11 or after? The opinion was that the threshold of taking action was dramtically lowered. "So what if they did have NBC weapons?" http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0700world/tm_objectid=17254053&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=al-qaeda--planned-new-york-subway-attack--name_page.html It is the link to Al-queda having a plan for gassing the subways. "Where is the imminent threat?" Imminent? You mean the word john Edwards used three times in a one minute analysis of Iraq? Define 'imminent'. Better still, find me an example of the admin using that word. "The bipartisan 911 commission ruled this out for us." The only real opinion they gave was that Al-Queda was not operationally involved with 9/11. "Does Saddam being a brutal dictator have anything to do with the United States?" Did Saddam destabilize the ME, or help it? "The guy isn’t a maniac, he is a politician" This is the point where I link to the thousands of stories accounting for 100,000 plus people killed by his orders. "Why would he give anyone a reason to attack him?" Yes, why not invite the US in his borders, without conditions, to prove he had disarmed? "Meanwhile we have North Korea test firing ICBM’s that can hit the west coast of the conus; and not a soul is suggesting military action against them." http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/06/18/korea-missile.html ""All options are on the table," said Thomas Schieffer, the U.S. ambassador to Japan." “Was Iraq an Afghanistan, supporting and funding terrorist activities within its borders?”

Paying 25k openly, to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers-
poof to lie number one from the dems.

“I think the administration was hell bent on invading Iraq”
before 9/11 or after? The opinion was that the threshold of taking action was dramtically lowered.

“So what if they did have NBC weapons?”

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0700world/tm_objectid=17254053&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=al-qaeda–planned-new-york-subway-attack–name_page.html

It is the link to Al-queda having a plan for gassing the subways.

“Where is the imminent threat?”

Imminent? You mean the word john Edwards used three times in a one minute analysis of Iraq? Define ‘imminent’. Better still, find me an example of the admin using that word.

“The bipartisan 911 commission ruled this out for us.”

The only real opinion they gave was that Al-Queda was not operationally involved with 9/11.

“Does Saddam being a brutal dictator have anything to do with the United States?”

Did Saddam destabilize the ME, or help it?

“The guy isn’t a maniac, he is a politician”

This is the point where I link to the thousands of stories accounting for 100,000 plus people killed by his orders.

“Why would he give anyone a reason to attack him?”
Yes, why not invite the US in his borders, without conditions, to prove he had disarmed?

“Meanwhile we have North Korea test firing ICBM’s that can hit the west coast of the conus; and not a soul is suggesting military action against them.”

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/06/18/korea-missile.html

“”All options are on the table,” said Thomas Schieffer, the U.S. ambassador to Japan.”

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-49746 Mark Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:51:04 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-49746 In the world of diplomacy, saying something would be a 'provocation' is a very strong statement, indeed. You imply we're just oblivious to the threat from North Korea, I'm just saying it ain't so... In the world of diplomacy, saying something would be a ‘provocation’ is a very strong statement, indeed. You imply we’re just oblivious to the threat from North Korea, I’m just saying it ain’t so…

]]> By: Evan http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-49740 Evan Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:47:15 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-49740 Hokie- Are you saying the U.S. and the rest of the world should have let Saddam have Kuwait in 1991? It sure sounds like that's what you're saying. Also, tell me which recent treaties (that have been confirmed through ratification by the Senate) the United States has broken, as you reference in your comment. I'm thinking you may have a hard time establishing credibility to such statements. Hokie-

Are you saying the U.S. and the rest of the world should have let Saddam have Kuwait in 1991? It sure sounds like that’s what you’re saying. Also, tell me which recent treaties (that have been confirmed through ratification by the Senate) the United States has broken, as you reference in your comment. I’m thinking you may have a hard time establishing credibility to such statements.

]]> By: Hokie Explorer http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/comment-page-1/#comment-49726 Hokie Explorer Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:35:53 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/the-most-ridiculous-editorial-of-the-month-thus-far/#comment-49726 I just read that article. Did she say anything about military action? I just read that article. Did she say anything about military action?

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