Comments on: truthout: He Was Indicted, I Tell You! http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Gwedd http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50915 Gwedd Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:32:21 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50915 Comrades, Ya know, it's almost akin to a meditation mantra.... keep repeating the phrase, the thought, the concept. Eventually, it will become real. They want so hard to believe that their concepts, their wishes, are reality. It's the Tinkerbell syndrom. Clap your hands and stomp your feet and holler real loud and Tinkerbell will come back to life..... While they are all out trying to bring their fairy-tales to life, the rest of us have to roll up our sleeves and get to work to keep the barbarians away from the gates of civilization. Respects, Gwedd Comrades,

Ya know, it’s almost akin to a meditation mantra…. keep repeating the phrase, the thought, the concept. Eventually, it will become real. They want so hard to believe that their concepts, their wishes, are reality. It’s the Tinkerbell syndrom. Clap your hands and stomp your feet and holler real loud and Tinkerbell will come back to life…..

While they are all out trying to bring their fairy-tales to life, the rest of us have to roll up our sleeves and get to work to keep the barbarians away from the gates of civilization.

Respects,

Gwedd

]]> By: megapotamus http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50882 megapotamus Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:44:20 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50882 Lt, thanks for pre-empting me. But I gotta give the same props to AnonLib on the "double-down". I've been saying that for years. The Libs always... always always ALWAYS double-down. Man, if that worked there wouldn't be a casino in business in the world. I love it though. Long term the outcome is scarcely in doubt but short term it makes for quite a roller coaster. In the coming years you will see two, ten, a million Marc Ashes. It is what the True Believer MUST do. Eric Hoffer is instructive here. Many will, and I dare say already, many have collapsed out of active politics from the Rove Dissappointment and related brushes with reality but the hard kernel, the ones who base their sense of self-worth on this kind of claptrap CAN NOT abandon their conceits regardless of the facts. Rather they must bolster with intensity of certitude what melting possibilities steal from them daily. Their ultimate fate is not pretty. But pretty funny! Lt, thanks for pre-empting me. But I gotta give the same props to AnonLib on the “double-down”. I’ve been saying that for years. The Libs always… always always ALWAYS double-down. Man, if that worked there wouldn’t be a casino in business in the world. I love it though. Long term the outcome is scarcely in doubt but short term it makes for quite a roller coaster. In the coming years you will see two, ten, a million Marc Ashes. It is what the True Believer MUST do. Eric Hoffer is instructive here. Many will, and I dare say already, many have collapsed out of active politics from the Rove Dissappointment and related brushes with reality but the hard kernel, the ones who base their sense of self-worth on this kind of claptrap CAN NOT abandon their conceits regardless of the facts. Rather they must bolster with intensity of certitude what melting possibilities steal from them daily. Their ultimate fate is not pretty. But pretty funny!

]]> By: Jim Treacher http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50875 Jim Treacher Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:05:50 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50875 It's the old X-Files trick: String the audience along as long as you can, and when you paint yourself into a corner, just start a new subplot. It’s the old X-Files trick: String the audience along as long as you can, and when you paint yourself into a corner, just start a new subplot.

]]> By: ArrMatey http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50870 ArrMatey Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:02:11 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50870 One of those truthout stories says "The case number is "06 cr 128." On the federal court's electronic database, "06 cr 128" is listed along with a succinct summary: "No further information is available." This blows my mind. It's such an easy thing to check on, and it just isn't so. See for yourself: http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/formpage.html One of those truthout stories says “The case number is “06 cr 128.” On the federal court’s electronic database, “06 cr 128″ is listed along with a succinct summary: “No further information is available.”

This blows my mind. It’s such an easy thing to check on, and it just isn’t so. See for yourself:
http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/formpage.html

]]> By: Good Lt http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50825 Good Lt Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:27:55 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50825 <blockquote>Despite the fact that the program is pretty blatantly illegal, the Bush administration keeps telling judges that it is in fact legal. Unfortunately, explaining why it is legal would so damage national security that the only option the judge has is to dismiss the case.</blockquote> That's not what the Constitution or FISA has said at all (a panel of five FISA judges reported to congress that the program is not only legal, but essential and effective). I gotta call BS on ya, Anon. <a href="http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060329-120346-1901r.htm" rel="nofollow">Read Up. </a> Also, see <a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm" rel="nofollow">Clinton</a> and <a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm" rel="nofollow">Carter's</a> responses to your assertions. During peacetime.

Despite the fact that the program is pretty blatantly illegal, the Bush administration keeps telling judges that it is in fact legal. Unfortunately, explaining why it is legal would so damage national security that the only option the judge has is to dismiss the case.

That’s not what the Constitution or FISA has said at all (a panel of five FISA judges reported to congress that the program is not only legal, but essential and effective). I gotta call BS on ya, Anon.

Read Up.
Also, see Clinton and Carter’s responses to your assertions. During peacetime.

]]> By: Right Wing Nut House http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50824 Right Wing Nut House Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:18:49 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50824 <strong>“ENDEAVORING TO PERSEVERE”</strong> In some ways, I feel badly for Marc Ash, Executive Director of Truthout.Org. Thanks to Jason Leopold, he finds himself in quite a pickle. You may recall last May 13th that Mr. Leopold wrote in Truthout that Karl Rove had been indicted, that he had t... “ENDEAVORING TO PERSEVERE”

In some ways, I feel badly for Marc Ash, Executive Director of Truthout.Org.

Thanks to Jason Leopold, he finds himself in quite a pickle. You may recall last May 13th that Mr. Leopold wrote in Truthout that Karl Rove had been indicted, that he had t…

]]> By: Gwedd http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50799 Gwedd Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:29:53 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50799 Comrades, So, do you think it's possible that TruthOut is being produced by the same team that writes for Pravda? Pravda is running an article about how Washington DC is under attack by US Special Forces as part of a coup to establish a dictatorship.... hell, it's almost a weird as the sh*t published in the Star or Enquirer..... Probably all graduates of the Columbia School of Journalism. Respects, Gwedd Comrades,

So, do you think it’s possible that TruthOut is being produced by the same team that writes for Pravda? Pravda is running an article about how Washington DC is under attack by US Special Forces as part of a coup to establish a dictatorship…. hell, it’s almost a weird as the sh*t published in the Star or Enquirer…..

Probably all graduates of the Columbia School of Journalism.

Respects,

Gwedd

]]> By: protein wisdom http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50792 protein wisdom Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:17:39 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50792 <strong>BREAKING: IT TURNS OUT ROVE WAS INDEED INDICTED - IT'S JUST THAT FITZGERALD WON'T TELL ANYONE, WHICH ALLOWS THAT LYING LUSKIN LIAR TO RUN AROUND TELLING LIES. BUT TRUST US, DICK CHENEY IS, LIKE, SO TOTALLY SCREWED, MAN. SERIOUSLY. ...</strong> *must credit protein wisdom* Not to get too far out in front of the news cycle here, but it appears TruthOut has been fully exonerated with respect to its earlier Rove reportage, and that Marc Ash, Jason Leopold, and their unnamed sources in federal la... BREAKING: IT TURNS OUT ROVE WAS INDEED INDICTED - IT'S JUST THAT FITZGERALD WON'T TELL ANYONE, WHICH ALLOWS THAT LYING LUSKIN LIAR TO RUN AROUND TELLING LIES. BUT TRUST US, DICK CHENEY IS, LIKE, SO TOTALLY SCREWED, MAN. SERIOUSLY. …

*must credit protein wisdom* Not to get too far out in front of the news cycle here, but it appears TruthOut has been fully exonerated with respect to its earlier Rove reportage, and that Marc Ash, Jason Leopold, and their unnamed sources in federal la…

]]> By: Rove really was indicted, TruthNOT.org insists at The Politburo Diktat http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50744 Rove really was indicted, TruthNOT.org insists at The Politburo Diktat Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:48:00 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50744 [...] Mark Coffey on the purple unicorn sighting. [...] [...] Mark Coffey on the purple unicorn sighting. [...]

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-50365 Mark Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:41:43 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/19/truthout-he-was-indicted-i-tell-you/#comment-50365 Well, dang it, I keep meaning to review the Greenwald book, where I intend to talk about some of those things, but time has been conspiring against me - I'm about 60% through. Soon, soon... Well, dang it, I keep meaning to review the Greenwald book, where I intend to talk about some of those things, but time has been conspiring against me – I’m about 60% through. Soon, soon…

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