Comments on: John Snow’s Remarkable Open Letter To Bill Keller http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Aaron http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/comment-page-1/#comment-56760 Aaron Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:16:02 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/#comment-56760 I know that that's just an opinion column, but specifically cites the date of the article. I'm assuming that the publication of weak spots in body armor is the contention to which you refer. I know that that’s just an opinion column, but specifically cites the date of the article. I’m assuming that the publication of weak spots in body armor is the contention to which you refer.

]]> By: Aaron http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/comment-page-1/#comment-56758 Aaron Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:14:29 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/#comment-56758 Yes: http://townhall.com/opinion/columns/WThomasSmithJr/2006/03/13/189391.html Yes: http://townhall.com/opinion/columns/WThomasSmithJr/2006/03/13/189391.html

]]> By: fatman http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/comment-page-1/#comment-56372 fatman Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:12:11 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/#comment-56372 Aaron: Got links to support that contention? Aaron:

Got links to support that contention?

]]> By: Aaron http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/comment-page-1/#comment-56270 Aaron Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:49:07 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/#comment-56270 Congressman Curt Weldon really ripped up Lichtblau on the Newshour last night. He also mentioned how the NYT printed a diagram of a US soldier's body armor, pointing out the weak spots. Obviously, US deaths went up afterwards. I think it's pretty clear at this point that the NYT wants the US to lose not only the war in Iraq but the War on Terror in general, and the only reason I can think of for this is that they want to embarrass President Bush. Congressman Curt Weldon really ripped up Lichtblau on the Newshour last night. He also mentioned how the NYT printed a diagram of a US soldier’s body armor, pointing out the weak spots. Obviously, US deaths went up afterwards. I think it’s pretty clear at this point that the NYT wants the US to lose not only the war in Iraq but the War on Terror in general, and the only reason I can think of for this is that they want to embarrass President Bush.

]]> By: too many steves http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/comment-page-1/#comment-56213 too many steves Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:27:04 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/#comment-56213 The more I find out about this the more infuriated I get because it is ever more obvious that Keller and the Times, despite arguing freedom of the press and the public's right to know, are behaving in what they believe to be a grossly self-serving manner. Ironically, their craven attempts to bolster their image and business prospects (circulation) seem to be having the opposite effect. In that I shall take comfort. The more I find out about this the more infuriated I get because it is ever more obvious that Keller and the Times, despite arguing freedom of the press and the public’s right to know, are behaving in what they believe to be a grossly self-serving manner. Ironically, their craven attempts to bolster their image and business prospects (circulation) seem to be having the opposite effect. In that I shall take comfort.

]]> By: Con George-Kotzabasis http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/comment-page-1/#comment-56077 Con George-Kotzabasis Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:33:58 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/#comment-56077 The NYT has converted its centuries old logo, from 'All the News that are Fit to Print' to All the News that are Fit to Betray America. The NYT has converted its centuries old logo, from ‘All the News that are Fit to Print’ to All the News that are Fit to Betray America.

]]> By: topsecretk9 http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/comment-page-1/#comment-56019 topsecretk9 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:58:40 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/#comment-56019 Well Snow really has the upper hand here...i.e. don't play poker...Keller just looks like KNOB re-responding to this... Well Snow really has the upper hand here…i.e. don’t play poker…Keller just looks like KNOB re-responding to this…

]]> By: mtl http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/comment-page-1/#comment-55981 mtl Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:08:24 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/#comment-55981 After having time to digest the implications, three scenarios come to mind that would fit the bill of why America is less safe because of the NYT's publication: 1. SWIFT has offices and reps throughout the world. If I work in a branch office, in a muslim country, I don't go to work for a while, my offices have become targets because the organization has been portrayed as working directly with the US to spy on muslims. 2. If I were a covert agent, trying to broker a fake deal, I would steer the target into using the SWIFT bank-the local office may not even be aware, but the money could still be traced. Every agent who has used SWIFT in the past is now in jeapordy, their operations lost. (Didn't the left stink it up about Brewster Jennings losing its cover?) 3. I sincerely doubt that SWIFT is the only banking group that is working with us. They are now the most known, but those groups that we have been working with covertly have lost their faith in the US ability to keep it a secret. Help will be less forthcoming. I will not rush to call this treason, because for the very same reason the Rove/Plame deal was clearly not meeting any statute that would could stick and was pointless, the NYT will not meet any statute of offense. David Rivkin said something to the extent-If the NYT had just told Al-Queda it would have been espionage. In printing it publicly for everyone to read, they fail to meet the charge. (Big paraphrasing there) I accept it but- those who leaked this, apparently seeking safety in numbers, are not immune. My anger is focused on they alone, and criminal prosecution is needed now. Fred Barnes had the best suggestion-call hearings now and get Keller to appear before a committee. His arogance is a wonder to behold and the amercian public 'has a right to know' who Keller really is. After having time to digest the implications, three scenarios come to mind that would fit the bill of why America is less safe because of the NYT’s publication:

1. SWIFT has offices and reps throughout the world. If I work in a branch office, in a muslim country, I don’t go to work for a while, my offices have become targets because the organization has been portrayed as working directly with the US to spy on muslims.

2. If I were a covert agent, trying to broker a fake deal, I would steer the target into using the SWIFT bank-the local office may not even be aware, but the money could still be traced. Every agent who has used SWIFT in the past is now in jeapordy, their operations lost. (Didn’t the left stink it up about Brewster Jennings losing its cover?)

3. I sincerely doubt that SWIFT is the only banking group that is working with us. They are now the most known, but those groups that we have been working with covertly have lost their faith in the US ability to keep it a secret. Help will be less forthcoming.

I will not rush to call this treason, because for the very same reason the Rove/Plame deal was clearly not meeting any statute that would could stick and was pointless, the NYT will not meet any statute of offense.

David Rivkin said something to the extent-If the NYT had just told Al-Queda it would have been espionage. In printing it publicly for everyone to read, they fail to meet the charge.
(Big paraphrasing there)

I accept it but-

those who leaked this, apparently seeking safety in numbers, are not immune. My anger is focused on they alone, and criminal prosecution is needed now.

Fred Barnes had the best suggestion-call hearings now and get Keller to appear before a committee. His arogance is a wonder to behold and the amercian public ‘has a right to know’ who Keller really is.

]]> By: AcademicElephant http://informedspeculation.com/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/comment-page-1/#comment-55926 AcademicElephant Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:43:04 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/06/26/john-snows-remarkable-open-letter-to-bill-keller/#comment-55926 Now I find myself sorry that Snow is leaving. Now I find myself sorry that Snow is leaving.

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