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		<title>By: Decision &#8216;08 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Think The Lebanese Army Can Resist Hezbollah?</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-75398</link>
		<dc:creator>Decision &#8216;08 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Think The Lebanese Army Can Resist Hezbollah?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] By giving new life to the Shebaa Farms myth (a matter that was considered settled by the UN in 2000), the UN Security Council has implicity allowed Hezbollah to continue to position themselves as resisters of occupation, rather than murdering terrorists. This is what has been accomplished, along with renewed pressure to paint Israel as the aggressor, and, in case you haven&#8217;t noticed, the notable absence of the return of the Israeli soldiers whose kidnapping from Israel&#8217;s sovereign territory initiated the war. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] By giving new life to the Shebaa Farms myth (a matter that was considered settled by the UN in 2000), the UN Security Council has implicity allowed Hezbollah to continue to position themselves as resisters of occupation, rather than murdering terrorists. This is what has been accomplished, along with renewed pressure to paint Israel as the aggressor, and, in case you haven&#8217;t noticed, the notable absence of the return of the Israeli soldiers whose kidnapping from Israel&#8217;s sovereign territory initiated the war. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-70507</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm...let&#039;s see, ah....nope, sorry.  Benjamin, my friend, I&#039;ve got no way to even approach that...I, ah, sincerely hope you&#039;re having a go at us, because that last post is a little, um...well, best of luck to you, if you&#039;re serious...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230;let&#8217;s see, ah&#8230;.nope, sorry.  Benjamin, my friend, I&#8217;ve got no way to even approach that&#8230;I, ah, sincerely hope you&#8217;re having a go at us, because that last post is a little, um&#8230;well, best of luck to you, if you&#8217;re serious&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin J. Brown</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-70504</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin J. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s the right of psycho-subliminal recruitment.  &quot;Farms&quot; (phony rooms) could be clandestine science based pods.  &quot;A&quot; being the first letter of the alphabet therefore would represent &quot;1&quot; (A=1).  The &quot;38&quot; farms in contention could be &quot;Jew&quot; (10+5+23=38).  Now I suppose the Jews have just as much as right as any other cult-race to recruit and replenish as any other.  My problem is not with the Jews or even Israel for that matter...it is with &quot;hate&quot;.  Perhaps the Islamic radicals are underground (literally) with psycho-subliminal weapons gladly provided to them by killer regimes preaching a doctrine of which all the Jews are to blame for the ails of the world.  Hate-mongers need an enemy and the Jewish issue is an easy target.  And vis versa. Perhaps there are secret subliminal semetic battlegrounds all over the world in apartments, shacks and cottages everywhere.  I live in Grants Pass, Oregon where such battle exists.  Invisable psychological-physical  torments together with incommunicado isolation are the standard orders. 

I am certain of the existance of these pervert facilities though have no direct proof.  But this Christian following the Gallilean from Nazareth am sick and tired of all the U.S. authorites sticking their head in sand (for oil no doubt) and ignoring the atrocities occuring in right here in America in the form of government saunctioned gulagsque conditions in secret restricted cities like Grants Pass, Oregon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s the right of psycho-subliminal recruitment.  &#8220;Farms&#8221; (phony rooms) could be clandestine science based pods.  &#8220;A&#8221; being the first letter of the alphabet therefore would represent &#8220;1&#8243; (A=1).  The &#8220;38&#8243; farms in contention could be &#8220;Jew&#8221; (10+5+23=38).  Now I suppose the Jews have just as much as right as any other cult-race to recruit and replenish as any other.  My problem is not with the Jews or even Israel for that matter&#8230;it is with &#8220;hate&#8221;.  Perhaps the Islamic radicals are underground (literally) with psycho-subliminal weapons gladly provided to them by killer regimes preaching a doctrine of which all the Jews are to blame for the ails of the world.  Hate-mongers need an enemy and the Jewish issue is an easy target.  And vis versa. Perhaps there are secret subliminal semetic battlegrounds all over the world in apartments, shacks and cottages everywhere.  I live in Grants Pass, Oregon where such battle exists.  Invisable psychological-physical  torments together with incommunicado isolation are the standard orders. </p>
<p>I am certain of the existance of these pervert facilities though have no direct proof.  But this Christian following the Gallilean from Nazareth am sick and tired of all the U.S. authorites sticking their head in sand (for oil no doubt) and ignoring the atrocities occuring in right here in America in the form of government saunctioned gulagsque conditions in secret restricted cities like Grants Pass, Oregon.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin J. Brown</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-70405</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin J. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the Shebaa Farms issue, an area of about 10,000 acres measuring less than 2 miles by 9 miles, is being played out in areas here in the United States.  Perhaps it&#039;s the coastal swath of land encompassing Manhattan, Redondo and Hermosa Beaches in Southern California.  Or maybe the same area of Torrance Beach eastward to the 110.  Or the various so-called corridors of Southern California (Jefferson, Adams, Artesia etc.).  Or maybe it&#039;s in Pasadena encompassing the 91101 zip code? Just as ridiculous as this hypothesis is so is the savage brutality now in play in the Mideast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the Shebaa Farms issue, an area of about 10,000 acres measuring less than 2 miles by 9 miles, is being played out in areas here in the United States.  Perhaps it&#8217;s the coastal swath of land encompassing Manhattan, Redondo and Hermosa Beaches in Southern California.  Or maybe the same area of Torrance Beach eastward to the 110.  Or the various so-called corridors of Southern California (Jefferson, Adams, Artesia etc.).  Or maybe it&#8217;s in Pasadena encompassing the 91101 zip code? Just as ridiculous as this hypothesis is so is the savage brutality now in play in the Mideast.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-70256</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sheeba farms is only a pretext used by Hizbollah to stay in business.

Had the Israelis left the territory, Hizbollah would recently have not had a reason to stay, and less bargaining power when the Lebanese government sought to disarm them.  This is however a non-issue and Syria screwed Lebanon by handing it over to them, knowing that they were creating a potential for more trouble on Lebanese soil.  The victims in this case, as usual, are the Lebanese people.  

I wish Israel could destroy Hizbollah, but that&#039;s not likely to happen.  Instead they have raised more would-be &quot;resistance&quot; forces against them.  Yes - damn Hizbollah, enemies of peace.  But also damn Israel for destroying the lives of so many civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sheeba farms is only a pretext used by Hizbollah to stay in business.</p>
<p>Had the Israelis left the territory, Hizbollah would recently have not had a reason to stay, and less bargaining power when the Lebanese government sought to disarm them.  This is however a non-issue and Syria screwed Lebanon by handing it over to them, knowing that they were creating a potential for more trouble on Lebanese soil.  The victims in this case, as usual, are the Lebanese people.  </p>
<p>I wish Israel could destroy Hizbollah, but that&#8217;s not likely to happen.  Instead they have raised more would-be &#8220;resistance&#8221; forces against them.  Yes &#8211; damn Hizbollah, enemies of peace.  But also damn Israel for destroying the lives of so many civilians.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-69873</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Israel must evolve to a pluralistic society where the law of return is not a function...&quot; 

You mean like the one they currently enjoy in Palestine? And who says they &quot;must&quot; do anything in this regard? The Palestinians? Talk about hypocricy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Israel must evolve to a pluralistic society where the law of return is not a function&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>You mean like the one they currently enjoy in Palestine? And who says they &#8220;must&#8221; do anything in this regard? The Palestinians? Talk about hypocricy.</p>
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		<title>By: Hasan</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-69865</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be for a state solution till I truly understood the US Bill of Rights and the historical context in which it was written.  I am still for a 2 state solution as an interim goodwill builing stage.  A permenant 2 state solution is a defeat to pluralism.  At the end of the day, Israel must evolve to a pluralistic society where the law of return is not a function of a religoius or racial background.  Just imagine if our immigration policy is limited to a certain religious or ethnic group.  What would you call such policy?  Racist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be for a state solution till I truly understood the US Bill of Rights and the historical context in which it was written.  I am still for a 2 state solution as an interim goodwill builing stage.  A permenant 2 state solution is a defeat to pluralism.  At the end of the day, Israel must evolve to a pluralistic society where the law of return is not a function of a religoius or racial background.  Just imagine if our immigration policy is limited to a certain religious or ethnic group.  What would you call such policy?  Racist?</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-69859</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - you&#039;re missing the big picture here. This is just another straw man for Hezbollah - if it wasn&#039;t for this obscure item, they would just substitute (or invent) another one. If the Lebanese were so upset over this action, then why not a peep from them over the past year?   History tells us what tactics will always be deployed by this group - their claims are simply not credible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; you&#8217;re missing the big picture here. This is just another straw man for Hezbollah &#8211; if it wasn&#8217;t for this obscure item, they would just substitute (or invent) another one. If the Lebanese were so upset over this action, then why not a peep from them over the past year?   History tells us what tactics will always be deployed by this group &#8211; their claims are simply not credible.</p>
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		<title>By: mikebdot</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-69855</link>
		<dc:creator>mikebdot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I&#039;m talking about the takeover of land that was not previously theirs, not the sole act of defending themselves.  My point is they created the mess they are in by taking over the land, why should we have to pay for it?  It&#039;s a terrible position to put us in (and themselves actually).  Surely they could have seen this issue coming back to bite them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I&#8217;m talking about the takeover of land that was not previously theirs, not the sole act of defending themselves.  My point is they created the mess they are in by taking over the land, why should we have to pay for it?  It&#8217;s a terrible position to put us in (and themselves actually).  Surely they could have seen this issue coming back to bite them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/07/24/the-shebaa-farms-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-69853</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Moreover, terrorist/resistance activities were non existant.&quot; 

How about some actual cites for this amazing statement? Really now, you absolutely must start reading credible news sources before you keep batantly reciting news from HamasToday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Moreover, terrorist/resistance activities were non existant.&#8221; </p>
<p>How about some actual cites for this amazing statement? Really now, you absolutely must start reading credible news sources before you keep batantly reciting news from HamasToday.</p>
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