Comments on: Ceasefire Agreement A Defeat For Israel – And America http://informedspeculation.com/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/comment-page-1/#comment-76062 Mark Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:10:22 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/#comment-76062 Well, I'll read it, but I'm going to take a LOT of convincing... Well, I’ll read it, but I’m going to take a LOT of convincing…

]]> By: Andy http://informedspeculation.com/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/comment-page-1/#comment-76050 Andy Tue, 15 Aug 2006 03:03:58 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/#comment-76050 Mark, have you read CQ lately? I think Ed has the best rationale for why this is a win-win for Isreal & US. Sort of a rope-a-dope, hezbollah being the dope that overplayed their hand and now forced to bvackpedal & stall for time Mark, have you read CQ lately? I think Ed has the best rationale for why this is a win-win for Isreal & US. Sort of a rope-a-dope, hezbollah being the dope that overplayed their hand and now forced to bvackpedal & stall for time

]]> By: RedBlueChristian » Blog Archive » MIDDLE EAST: PUNDITS SAYING THE “CEASE FIRE” A DEFEAT! http://informedspeculation.com/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/comment-page-1/#comment-75281 RedBlueChristian » Blog Archive » MIDDLE EAST: PUNDITS SAYING THE “CEASE FIRE” A DEFEAT! Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:42:41 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/#comment-75281 [...] My friend Mark Coffey, at Decision ‘08, reports on a column by Caroline Glick at the Jerusalem Post. The Monday cease fire is labled an ‘unmitigated disaster’. [...] [...] My friend Mark Coffey, at Decision ‘08, reports on a column by Caroline Glick at the Jerusalem Post. The Monday cease fire is labled an ‘unmitigated disaster’. [...]

]]> By: Amos http://informedspeculation.com/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/comment-page-1/#comment-75227 Amos Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:23:45 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/#comment-75227 My understanding is that the Lebanese army is utterly, utterly useless. They may be holding back because they are capable of nothing else. Hizb'allah doesn't seem to have ever asked them for help throughout this entire conflict. My understanding is that the Lebanese army is utterly, utterly useless. They may be holding back because they are capable of nothing else. Hizb’allah doesn’t seem to have ever asked them for help throughout this entire conflict.

]]> By: Sean P http://informedspeculation.com/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/comment-page-1/#comment-75215 Sean P Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:28:05 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/#comment-75215 I don't doubt for a second that Hezbolla has no intention of honoring a cease fire, and I understand that this forces Isreal to pull back their assault on Hezbolla strongholds. But short of occupying Lebanon outright for 5+ years, Isreal was never going to eliminate Hezbolla in Lebanon anyway, and Isreal never intended to occupy Lebanon outright, so a cease-fire of some kind was inevitable. Besides, the key player in this cease fire isn't Hezbolla at all, its Lebanon -- specifically its military. The military hung Hezbolla out to dry during this entire war, which is a sign that the desire to purge Hezbolla from Labanon exists, if not the ability. If the Lebanese military is willing and able to respond to Hezbolla rocket attacks into Isreal, and to keep the Syrians out of Lebanon, the cease fire can work. I don’t doubt for a second that Hezbolla has no intention of honoring a cease fire, and I understand that this forces Isreal to pull back their assault on Hezbolla strongholds. But short of occupying Lebanon outright for 5+ years, Isreal was never going to eliminate Hezbolla in Lebanon anyway, and Isreal never intended to occupy Lebanon outright, so a cease-fire of some kind was inevitable.

Besides, the key player in this cease fire isn’t Hezbolla at all, its Lebanon — specifically its military. The military hung Hezbolla out to dry during this entire war, which is a sign that the desire to purge Hezbolla from Labanon exists, if not the ability. If the Lebanese military is willing and able to respond to Hezbolla rocket attacks into Isreal, and to keep the Syrians out of Lebanon, the cease fire can work.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/comment-page-1/#comment-75186 Mark Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:58:36 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/#comment-75186 Jack, maybe you're right - but I'm sure not seeing it.... Jack, maybe you’re right – but I’m sure not seeing it….

]]> By: Jack http://informedspeculation.com/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/comment-page-1/#comment-75179 Jack Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:02:44 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/#comment-75179 If this is "a defeat for Israel -- and America," how come the US sponsored it and Israel accepted it? Bush approved it, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Israel's cabinet accepted it, with only one abstention. Unless Bush and the Israelis are dimwitted fools, there's something you're missing. I don't know what it is, but there has to be something more. If this is “a defeat for Israel — and America,” how come the US sponsored it and Israel accepted it? Bush approved it, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Israel’s cabinet accepted it, with only one abstention. Unless Bush and the Israelis are dimwitted fools, there’s something you’re missing. I don’t know what it is, but there has to be something more.

]]> By: Amos http://informedspeculation.com/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/comment-page-1/#comment-75144 Amos Sun, 13 Aug 2006 06:58:12 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/08/12/ceasefire-agreement-a-defeat-for-israel-and-america/#comment-75144 The terms of the 'cease fire' are that Israel can keep shooting if Hezballah does. The jihadi scum have vowed to keep fighting so long as Israelis are in Lebanon, hence there is no cease fire, just a fig leaf to bamboozle the idiots at the UN. The fighting will continue past monday. Most Lebanese think this, Hezballah seems to also. The terms of the ‘cease fire’ are that Israel can keep shooting if Hezballah does. The jihadi scum have vowed to keep fighting so long as Israelis are in Lebanon, hence there is no cease fire, just a fig leaf to bamboozle the idiots at the UN.

The fighting will continue past monday. Most Lebanese think this, Hezballah seems to also.

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