Comments on: The United Nations: An Idea Whose Time Never Came http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:29:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-89044 Mark Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:34:45 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-89044 About six weeks now until I see Mr. Richards onstage...I doubt I'll get a chance to ask him any questions, though... About six weeks now until I see Mr. Richards onstage…I doubt I’ll get a chance to ask him any questions, though…

]]> By: Dmac http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-89040 Dmac Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:27:56 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-89040 Wonder if Keith had any sudden urges to climb the trees in Central Park... Wonder if Keith had any sudden urges to climb the trees in Central Park…

]]> By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-89027 peter Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:58:03 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-89027 Totally off-topic, but one of the other residents of the apartment building I lived in near the UN was Keith Richards (although he moved out shortly before I moved in). According to the doormen, he was a quiet family guy who was often seen strolling his kids in and out of the building. As we say in New York, go figure. Totally off-topic, but one of the other residents of the apartment building I lived in near the UN was Keith Richards (although he moved out shortly before I moved in). According to the doormen, he was a quiet family guy who was often seen strolling his kids in and out of the building. As we say in New York, go figure.

]]> By: Dmac http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-88938 Dmac Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:26:09 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-88938 "But, BTW, the US doesn’t contribute any troops to UN peacekeeper forces, last time I checked." But we contribute the greatest portion of dues to the UN, last time I checked. I disagreed with Jesse Helms on almost everything, but his withholding of our portion not too long ago was the right idea, although a long time coming. "Times do change and at a minimum France needs to be removed from one of the 5 permanent positions." They should be removed as a partner in NATO as well. France contributes virtually no troops and no arms to NATO - completely worthless as a worthwhile participant. "...India, for instance..." But India is only the world's largest democratic state - why on earth would the UN want them there? “But, BTW, the US doesn’t contribute any troops to UN peacekeeper forces, last time I checked.”

But we contribute the greatest portion of dues to the UN, last time I checked. I disagreed with Jesse Helms on almost everything, but his withholding of our portion not too long ago was the right idea, although a long time coming.

“Times do change and at a minimum France needs to be removed from one of the 5 permanent positions.”

They should be removed as a partner in NATO as well. France contributes virtually no troops and no arms to NATO – completely worthless as a worthwhile participant.

“…India, for instance…”

But India is only the world’s largest democratic state – why on earth would the UN want them there?

]]> By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-88922 peter Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:46:45 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-88922 I have to agree with Gwedd here. When I lived in New York, my apartment was two blocks from the UN. I was married at the UN Plaza Hotel, where I had my first date with my wife. Not only do diplomats park illegally with abandon, but there were constant demonstrations by one group or another. However, there was a silver lining in the cloud: the police presence around the UN was excellent. The only place in New York better protected than that is the Cuban embassy. I have to agree with Gwedd here. When I lived in New York, my apartment was two blocks from the UN. I was married at the UN Plaza Hotel, where I had my first date with my wife. Not only do diplomats park illegally with abandon, but there were constant demonstrations by one group or another. However, there was a silver lining in the cloud: the police presence around the UN was excellent. The only place in New York better protected than that is the Cuban embassy.

]]> By: Gwedd http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-88831 Gwedd Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:34:48 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-88831 Comrades, And don't leave out the finacial disaster that the UN has been for New York City. The delgates flaunt their Dimplomatic Immunity, parking and driving as they please. It's like a diplomatic mafia that does what it wants because it knows it will suffer no penalties. Turtle Bay could be a financial windfall for the right sort of developer, although I suspect it might take some advanced technology to get the stench out of the facilities..... corruption tends to linger longer than decomp... Respects, Gwedd Comrades,

And don’t leave out the finacial disaster that the UN has been for New York City. The delgates flaunt their Dimplomatic Immunity, parking and driving as they please. It’s like a diplomatic mafia that does what it wants because it knows it will suffer no penalties.

Turtle Bay could be a financial windfall for the right sort of developer, although I suspect it might take some advanced technology to get the stench out of the facilities….. corruption tends to linger longer than decomp…

Respects,

Gwedd

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-88419 Mark Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:01:07 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-88419 Aha...been hitting the catnip, have we?... Aha…been hitting the catnip, have we?…

]]> By: Muffin the Cat http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-88409 Muffin the Cat Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:12:51 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-88409 Ignore the 3rd and 4th paragraphs from my previous post. I was cutting and pasting and it got away from me. Please forgive an old kitty. I turn 20 this month. Ignore the 3rd and 4th paragraphs from my previous post. I was cutting and pasting and it got away from me. Please forgive an old kitty. I turn 20 this month.

]]> By: Muffin the Cat http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-88388 Muffin the Cat Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:52:49 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-88388 Spot on with your assessment. The UN has to be the most worthless group in the world. As you mention they are tremendously corrupt. Kofi needs to go. It is my opinion, that he is the major cause of the corruption in the UN. I sometimes feel they are working towards the downfall of western culture or for the neutralization of the United States, which is what I feel the left wants. Times do change and at a minimum France needs to be removed from one of the 5 permanent positions. They no longer if they ever did have any real power at the end of WWII. Maybe they had it 200-300 years ago. As mentioned, India might be a deserving nation for a permanent position. What is sad is that the UN could be a very good organization. Run properly, it could police the world and minimize dictators like Saddam Hussein to prevent any major problems and at the same time maintaining respect for the sovereignty of each nation. The UN has no teeth. They are a joke and their resolutions are worthless and these people know it. They never enforce them. Properly enforced, the entire Iraqi conflict could have been prevented. The US being the most powerful country in the world from a military standpoint is left trying to prevent major crises. I do not know why we continue supporting the UN. I guess to make it look like we try to work with the rest of the world. Anyway, I agree. It is time to have the headquarters moved somewhere else. I am tired of paying for it. Europe would love to have it. I hope I live to see the day that this organization is dissolved. Spot on with your assessment. The UN has to be the most worthless group in the world. As you mention they are tremendously corrupt. I sometimes feel they are working towards the downfall of western culture or for the neutralization of the United States, which is what I feel the left wants. Times do change and at a minimum France needs to be removed from one of the 5 permanent positions. They no longer if they ever did have any real power at the end of WWII. Maybe they had it 200-300 years ago. As mentioned, India might be a deserving nation for a permanent position. What is sad is that the UN could be a very good organization. Run properly, it could police the world and minimize dictators like Saddam Hussein to prevent any major problems and at the same time maintaining respect for the sovereignty of each nation. The UN has no teeth. They are a joke and their resolutions are worthless and these people know it. They never enforce them. Properly enforced, the entire Iraqi conflict could have been prevented. The US being the most powerful country in the world from a military standpoint is left trying to prevent major crises. I do not know why we continue supporting the UN. I guess to make it look like we try to work with the rest of the world. Anyway, I agree. It is time to have the headquarters moved somewhere else. I am tired of paying for it. Europe would love to have it. I hope I live to see the day that this organization is dissolved. Spot on with your assessment. The UN has to be the most worthless group in the world. As you mention they are tremendously corrupt. Kofi needs to go. It is my opinion, that he is the major cause of the corruption in the UN.

I sometimes feel they are working towards the downfall of western culture or for the neutralization of the United States, which is what I feel the left wants. Times do change and at a minimum France needs to be removed from one of the 5 permanent positions. They no longer if they ever did have any real power at the end of WWII. Maybe they had it 200-300 years ago. As mentioned, India might be a deserving nation for a permanent position.

What is sad is that the UN could be a very good organization. Run properly, it could police the world and minimize dictators like Saddam Hussein to prevent any major problems and at the same time maintaining respect for the sovereignty of each nation. The UN has no teeth. They are a joke and their resolutions are worthless and these people know it. They never enforce them. Properly enforced, the entire Iraqi conflict could have been prevented. The US being the most powerful country in the world from a military standpoint is left trying to prevent major crises.

I do not know why we continue supporting the UN. I guess to make it look like we try to work with the rest of the world. Anyway, I agree. It is time to have the headquarters moved somewhere else. I am tired of paying for it. Europe would love to have it. I hope I live to see the day that this organization is dissolved. Spot on with your assessment. The UN has to be the most worthless group in the world. As you mention they are tremendously corrupt. I sometimes feel they are working towards the downfall of western culture or for the neutralization of the United States, which is what I feel the left wants. Times do change and at a minimum France needs to be removed from one of the 5 permanent positions. They no longer if they ever did have any real power at the end of WWII. Maybe they had it 200-300 years ago. As mentioned, India might be a deserving nation for a permanent position.

What is sad is that the UN could be a very good organization. Run properly, it could police the world and minimize dictators like Saddam Hussein to prevent any major problems and at the same time maintaining respect for the sovereignty of each nation. The UN has no teeth. They are a joke and their resolutions are worthless and these people know it. They never enforce them. Properly enforced, the entire Iraqi conflict could have been prevented. The US being the most powerful country in the world from a military standpoint is left trying to prevent major crises.

I do not know why we continue supporting the UN. I guess to make it look like we try to work with the rest of the world. Anyway, I agree. It is time to have the headquarters moved somewhere else. I am tired of paying for it. Europe would love to have it. I hope I live to see the day that this organization is dissolved.

]]> By: Aaron http://informedspeculation.com/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/comment-page-1/#comment-87673 Aaron Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:18:52 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/09/03/the-united-nations-an-idea-whose-time-never-came/#comment-87673 One of the drawbacks to the relatively peaceful resolution of the Cold War was that the institutions established to keep world order at the end of WWII were not destroyed, as the League of Nations was in WWII. Now we have essentially powerless countries -- the UK, France, and Russia -- holding three of the five most powerful offices in the organization, while states that are far more powerful and influential -- India, for instance -- have no more representation than a state like Haiti. But that's only the tip of the iceberg. But, BTW, the US doesn't contribute any troops to UN peacekeeper forces, last time I checked. And I recall a letter to Bill O'Reilley (back when I used to watch him) suggesting that the US construct an entirely new UN HQ -- in Africa. One of the drawbacks to the relatively peaceful resolution of the Cold War was that the institutions established to keep world order at the end of WWII were not destroyed, as the League of Nations was in WWII. Now we have essentially powerless countries — the UK, France, and Russia — holding three of the five most powerful offices in the organization, while states that are far more powerful and influential — India, for instance — have no more representation than a state like Haiti. But that’s only the tip of the iceberg.

But, BTW, the US doesn’t contribute any troops to UN peacekeeper forces, last time I checked. And I recall a letter to Bill O’Reilley (back when I used to watch him) suggesting that the US construct an entirely new UN HQ — in Africa.

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