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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Verse 9:123 - &quot;Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you.&quot;

It should be clear that this verse commands Muslims to wage war on all non-Muslims around them. You don&#039;t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.

Verse 47:3 - &quot;When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.&quot;

That is what I call a harsh religion. You are supposed to strike off the heads of those to whom you evangelize?

Verse 48:29 - &quot;Muhammad is Allah&#039;s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.&quot;

Verse 66:9 - &quot;Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate.&quot;

I think you would have to be an idiot to not be able to see the hostile nature and commands for the Muslims. It is clear with just these verses that the war they are commanded to wage on all non-Muslims is not evangelizing. They are commanded to fight to kill all non-Muslims including atheists, secularists, humanists, evolutionists, and all other religions but you will find that the Koran places special emphasis on killing off Jews and Christians. This is probably because of the rejection the Jews and Christians gave Muhammad. Keep in mind that I could easily have given you at least another 20 to 30 verses which are just as telling.

But don&#039;t take my word about who the unbelievers are, take the word of Muhammad. I want you to notice that he placed special emphasis on Jews and Christians (People of the Book.) We will start with verse 5:17 - &quot;Unbelievers are those who declare: &#039;God is the Messiah, the son of Mary.&#039;&quot; Oops, I bet some of you blindly believed the Muslims who have been going around speaking at Christian churches saying they worship the same God we do (we already proved that to not be true), they also believe in &quot;The Same Jesus&quot; and even believe in Him more than we do, and that Islam and Christianity are the same religions. You should have read the Koran instead of letting the liars spoon feed you. Always remember this, it is considered a good deed for Muslims to successfully lie to their enemy. Then they go home, call you suckers, and laugh at you for being fools.

But, hey, lets not put everything on one obvious verse. Let&#039;s look at at least a few obvious verses like verse 5:51 - &quot;Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another.&quot; Oops, strike two. How many more verses will it take for you to realize the US Muslims are lying to you and the Middle Eastern Muslims, including Osama Bin Ladden, are telling you the truth. I despise Osama for what he does but have to respect him for being honest, unlike the liars who have mislead many in this nation.

Verse 5:59 - &quot;Say: &#039;People of the Book, is it not that you hate us only because we believe in Allah and in what has been revealed to us and what was formerly revealed, and because most of you are evil-doers?&#039; Say: &#039;Shall I tell you who will receive a worse reward from Allah? Those whom Allah has cursed and with whom He has been angry, transforming them into apes and swine, and those who serve the devil.&quot; And those are the only ones who will receive a worse reward than the Jews and Christians. Doesn&#039;t sound to me like we all have the same religion and worship the same God. Why would my God, whom I worship do that to me for worshiping Him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verse 9:123 &#8211; &#8220;Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you.&#8221;</p>
<p>It should be clear that this verse commands Muslims to wage war on all non-Muslims around them. You don&#8217;t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.</p>
<p>Verse 47:3 &#8211; &#8220;When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is what I call a harsh religion. You are supposed to strike off the heads of those to whom you evangelize?</p>
<p>Verse 48:29 &#8211; &#8220;Muhammad is Allah&#8217;s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.&#8221;</p>
<p>Verse 66:9 &#8211; &#8220;Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you would have to be an idiot to not be able to see the hostile nature and commands for the Muslims. It is clear with just these verses that the war they are commanded to wage on all non-Muslims is not evangelizing. They are commanded to fight to kill all non-Muslims including atheists, secularists, humanists, evolutionists, and all other religions but you will find that the Koran places special emphasis on killing off Jews and Christians. This is probably because of the rejection the Jews and Christians gave Muhammad. Keep in mind that I could easily have given you at least another 20 to 30 verses which are just as telling.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t take my word about who the unbelievers are, take the word of Muhammad. I want you to notice that he placed special emphasis on Jews and Christians (People of the Book.) We will start with verse 5:17 &#8211; &#8220;Unbelievers are those who declare: &#8216;God is the Messiah, the son of Mary.&#8217;&#8221; Oops, I bet some of you blindly believed the Muslims who have been going around speaking at Christian churches saying they worship the same God we do (we already proved that to not be true), they also believe in &#8220;The Same Jesus&#8221; and even believe in Him more than we do, and that Islam and Christianity are the same religions. You should have read the Koran instead of letting the liars spoon feed you. Always remember this, it is considered a good deed for Muslims to successfully lie to their enemy. Then they go home, call you suckers, and laugh at you for being fools.</p>
<p>But, hey, lets not put everything on one obvious verse. Let&#8217;s look at at least a few obvious verses like verse 5:51 &#8211; &#8220;Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another.&#8221; Oops, strike two. How many more verses will it take for you to realize the US Muslims are lying to you and the Middle Eastern Muslims, including Osama Bin Ladden, are telling you the truth. I despise Osama for what he does but have to respect him for being honest, unlike the liars who have mislead many in this nation.</p>
<p>Verse 5:59 &#8211; &#8220;Say: &#8216;People of the Book, is it not that you hate us only because we believe in Allah and in what has been revealed to us and what was formerly revealed, and because most of you are evil-doers?&#8217; Say: &#8216;Shall I tell you who will receive a worse reward from Allah? Those whom Allah has cursed and with whom He has been angry, transforming them into apes and swine, and those who serve the devil.&#8221; And those are the only ones who will receive a worse reward than the Jews and Christians. Doesn&#8217;t sound to me like we all have the same religion and worship the same God. Why would my God, whom I worship do that to me for worshiping Him?</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, I fear the American public will awaken to this danger on the clear, bright morning when Los Angeles, or Rome, or some other western city is destroyed forever.

The dirty little secret of nuclear proliferation is that once you have enough plutonium or enriched uranium making a basic 1945 bomb is very, very easy.  (Sure the scientists in the Manhattan Project were brilliant, but they were working with electronics and tools vastly inferior to what&#039;s available in a typical university machine shop and still managed to get all three of their first attempts to work flawlessly.)

We are rapidly running out of time to prevent this atrocity.

Totally unrelated note, but, I wonder if Sam Nunn could be persuade to return to politics in &#039;08.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, I fear the American public will awaken to this danger on the clear, bright morning when Los Angeles, or Rome, or some other western city is destroyed forever.</p>
<p>The dirty little secret of nuclear proliferation is that once you have enough plutonium or enriched uranium making a basic 1945 bomb is very, very easy.  (Sure the scientists in the Manhattan Project were brilliant, but they were working with electronics and tools vastly inferior to what&#8217;s available in a typical university machine shop and still managed to get all three of their first attempts to work flawlessly.)</p>
<p>We are rapidly running out of time to prevent this atrocity.</p>
<p>Totally unrelated note, but, I wonder if Sam Nunn could be persuade to return to politics in &#8216;08.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwedd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

     Thanks for posting this. The mindset that refuses to understand the danger we face from a Nuclear-armed terrorist group is nothing new. Our national leaders, newspapers, radio commentators, the guy on the street, all felt the same way in the period 1933-1941. It was not a problem for us. No one would ever attack us here. It&#039;s Europe&#039;s problem. It&#039;s Asia&#039;s problem. It will never happen here.

     The over-riding danger to all Americans in particular, and Western Civiliazation in general, is the failure to understand that Islamic Facists WANT to take over the world. It&#039;s not a joke, it&#039;s not a delusion, it&#039;s a fact. They feel commanded by God to establish Islamic rule worldwide, a global Caliphate that will enforce obediance through sharia law.

     We are in a war. Not a war between nations, although the CAIR shills and Iranian puppeteers would have us think so. They would say &quot;It&#039;s America&#039;s fault!&quot;, or &quot;It&#039;s the POpe&#039;s fault&quot;, but it isn&#039;t, and it never was. It is a war between to very divergent philosophies. One that would rule via dark-aged reason and brute force, or one that believes in free will and human dignity. One side that has lived for nearly 13 centuries  under a despotic, soul-crushing, mysoginistic and tribal enabling system, or one that brought the Rennassaince, the Enlightenment, and freed humanity from the rule of Monarchs and Petty Kings.

     Judaism, Christianity, all have moved on, evolved, corrected themselves where errors were found and tried to right wrongs they committed. Islam has not, and cannot. All other religions understand that the human is fallible, that when he writes down something, it is possible to make a mistake, that it may be revised to excise mistakes and bring improvement, enlightenment to the whole. Islam refuses to accept that the Koran is riddled with errors. Rather that deal with the mistake, they destroy those whi point it out. Rather than accept that it is inspired by God, they claim it is the exact word of God. And therein lies the danger, and the seeds of all our current misery.

     Islamic Facists are striving mightily to get nuclear weapons, either through development or through purchase or theft. They don&#039;t care how, they simply intend to obtain them. Just like Hitler rebuilding Germany&#039;s military, the Islamicists toil on towards there goal, and when they reach it, they will use.

     Our own press speaks of &quot;moderate Muslims&quot;, but where are they? They are as invisible as moderate Germans in 1939. If they even exist, they are unwilling to speak out, to say what needs to be said, to act, to even try and resist. And where did this closed mindset of Islamic group-think come from? Well, it should be no surprise that the vaunted SS of Hitlers Germany counted at least one entire division of islamists among it&#039;s ranks. They came together and joined the SS to fight for Hitler, and after the war the survivors came back to their various countries and tribes. They reinvigorated the Muslim Brotherhood. They created the Baathist Party. And they taught their followers to goose-step and raise their hands in the party salute.

    Just look at the pictures. Watch the film at 11. It&#039;s there for anyone to see who chooses to. Hitler strove for a nuclear bomb to attack America with. Now his heirs in the Middle East are taking up his cause, replacing Nazism with Sharia, the Gestapo with Hezzbollah and Revolutionary Guards, the SS with Fehdayeen, the German-American Bund with CAIR. It&#039;s all laid out in plain sight, but most folks seem to not be able to see it. And that blindness will kill them. It will bring a great sorrow to this land that will dwarf the national misery of our own civil war. And we will have only ourselves to blame, because folks kept saying: &quot;It won&#039;t happen here&quot;. Ask the Jews of Europe how well that mindset served them.

     Respects,

       Gwedd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>     Thanks for posting this. The mindset that refuses to understand the danger we face from a Nuclear-armed terrorist group is nothing new. Our national leaders, newspapers, radio commentators, the guy on the street, all felt the same way in the period 1933-1941. It was not a problem for us. No one would ever attack us here. It&#8217;s Europe&#8217;s problem. It&#8217;s Asia&#8217;s problem. It will never happen here.</p>
<p>     The over-riding danger to all Americans in particular, and Western Civiliazation in general, is the failure to understand that Islamic Facists WANT to take over the world. It&#8217;s not a joke, it&#8217;s not a delusion, it&#8217;s a fact. They feel commanded by God to establish Islamic rule worldwide, a global Caliphate that will enforce obediance through sharia law.</p>
<p>     We are in a war. Not a war between nations, although the CAIR shills and Iranian puppeteers would have us think so. They would say &#8220;It&#8217;s America&#8217;s fault!&#8221;, or &#8220;It&#8217;s the POpe&#8217;s fault&#8221;, but it isn&#8217;t, and it never was. It is a war between to very divergent philosophies. One that would rule via dark-aged reason and brute force, or one that believes in free will and human dignity. One side that has lived for nearly 13 centuries  under a despotic, soul-crushing, mysoginistic and tribal enabling system, or one that brought the Rennassaince, the Enlightenment, and freed humanity from the rule of Monarchs and Petty Kings.</p>
<p>     Judaism, Christianity, all have moved on, evolved, corrected themselves where errors were found and tried to right wrongs they committed. Islam has not, and cannot. All other religions understand that the human is fallible, that when he writes down something, it is possible to make a mistake, that it may be revised to excise mistakes and bring improvement, enlightenment to the whole. Islam refuses to accept that the Koran is riddled with errors. Rather that deal with the mistake, they destroy those whi point it out. Rather than accept that it is inspired by God, they claim it is the exact word of God. And therein lies the danger, and the seeds of all our current misery.</p>
<p>     Islamic Facists are striving mightily to get nuclear weapons, either through development or through purchase or theft. They don&#8217;t care how, they simply intend to obtain them. Just like Hitler rebuilding Germany&#8217;s military, the Islamicists toil on towards there goal, and when they reach it, they will use.</p>
<p>     Our own press speaks of &#8220;moderate Muslims&#8221;, but where are they? They are as invisible as moderate Germans in 1939. If they even exist, they are unwilling to speak out, to say what needs to be said, to act, to even try and resist. And where did this closed mindset of Islamic group-think come from? Well, it should be no surprise that the vaunted SS of Hitlers Germany counted at least one entire division of islamists among it&#8217;s ranks. They came together and joined the SS to fight for Hitler, and after the war the survivors came back to their various countries and tribes. They reinvigorated the Muslim Brotherhood. They created the Baathist Party. And they taught their followers to goose-step and raise their hands in the party salute.</p>
<p>    Just look at the pictures. Watch the film at 11. It&#8217;s there for anyone to see who chooses to. Hitler strove for a nuclear bomb to attack America with. Now his heirs in the Middle East are taking up his cause, replacing Nazism with Sharia, the Gestapo with Hezzbollah and Revolutionary Guards, the SS with Fehdayeen, the German-American Bund with CAIR. It&#8217;s all laid out in plain sight, but most folks seem to not be able to see it. And that blindness will kill them. It will bring a great sorrow to this land that will dwarf the national misery of our own civil war. And we will have only ourselves to blame, because folks kept saying: &#8220;It won&#8217;t happen here&#8221;. Ask the Jews of Europe how well that mindset served them.</p>
<p>     Respects,</p>
<p>       Gwedd</p>
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		<title>By: Con George-Kotzabasis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Con George-Kotzabasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 08:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, kudos for bringing up, and underlining this grave threat to your readers, as illustrated by Graham Allison&#039;s clearly stated and cogent argument backed by historical experience, and most of all by imagination. 

The reality of a nuclear attack in one of the major cities of America by fanatic apocalyptic terrorists is an Alice in Wonderland tale only for people who lack imagination, and are congenitally stricken with flabby, sloppy, and fatalist thinking. But fortunately for mankind, ther are still people of a Tiresias stature who can foresee this great danger and are optimistic enough, unlike the pessimists, that they can forestall it. And we all know that it&#039;s not pessimists who win wars, that is the vocation of the intrepid and of the optimists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, kudos for bringing up, and underlining this grave threat to your readers, as illustrated by Graham Allison&#8217;s clearly stated and cogent argument backed by historical experience, and most of all by imagination. </p>
<p>The reality of a nuclear attack in one of the major cities of America by fanatic apocalyptic terrorists is an Alice in Wonderland tale only for people who lack imagination, and are congenitally stricken with flabby, sloppy, and fatalist thinking. But fortunately for mankind, ther are still people of a Tiresias stature who can foresee this great danger and are optimistic enough, unlike the pessimists, that they can forestall it. And we all know that it&#8217;s not pessimists who win wars, that is the vocation of the intrepid and of the optimists.</p>
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