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	<title>Comments on: So It&#8217;s Foleygate Now, Is It?</title>
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		<title>By: Decision &#8216;08 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ahead Of The Curve</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/10/03/so-its-foleygate-now-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-104093</link>
		<dc:creator>Decision &#8216;08 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ahead Of The Curve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As I said three days ago: this, too, shall pass&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As I said three days ago: this, too, shall pass&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: infotainment rules &#187; Blog Archive &#187; did you notice that I didn&#8217;t write anything about Foley-gate?</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/10/03/so-its-foleygate-now-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-103828</link>
		<dc:creator>infotainment rules &#187; Blog Archive &#187; did you notice that I didn&#8217;t write anything about Foley-gate?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 01:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wouldn&#8217;t know where to begin to describe my feelings about this Foleygate and I&#8217;m afraid this particular scandal will get &#8220;-gate&#8221; status even without all that extra pushing from the Democrats, which is looking uglier and uglier John Podhoretz gets right to the point: &#8220;outing&#8221; is McCarthyite. And vile. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wouldn&#8217;t know where to begin to describe my feelings about this Foleygate and I&#8217;m afraid this particular scandal will get &#8220;-gate&#8221; status even without all that extra pushing from the Democrats, which is looking uglier and uglier John Podhoretz gets right to the point: &#8220;outing&#8221; is McCarthyite. And vile. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Outside The Beltway &#124; OTB</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/10/03/so-its-foleygate-now-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-103181</link>
		<dc:creator>Outside The Beltway &#124; OTB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 14:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Is There Time for the GOP to Recover from Foley Scandal?&lt;/strong&gt;

Mickey Kaus thinks that, in today&#8217;s climate, the fact that the Foley sex scandal has broken four weeks before the election is good news for the GOP:
The Feiler Faster Thesis is the Republicans&#8217; friend at this point.  [&#8230;] There&#8217;s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Is There Time for the GOP to Recover from Foley Scandal?</strong></p>
<p>Mickey Kaus thinks that, in today&#8217;s climate, the fact that the Foley sex scandal has broken four weeks before the election is good news for the GOP:<br />
The Feiler Faster Thesis is the Republicans&#8217; friend at this point.  [&#8230;] There&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kisrum</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/10/03/so-its-foleygate-now-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-102737</link>
		<dc:creator>kisrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is the check bouncing scandal of &#039;94, that is, we all know congress can be corrupt in big ways, but when they get away with stupid little stuff, however disgusting, that would land most of us in jail for 30 days, we get pissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is the check bouncing scandal of &#8216;94, that is, we all know congress can be corrupt in big ways, but when they get away with stupid little stuff, however disgusting, that would land most of us in jail for 30 days, we get pissed.</p>
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		<title>By: Decision &#8216;08 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Howard Fineman Pulls A Herbert</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/10/03/so-its-foleygate-now-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-102728</link>
		<dc:creator>Decision &#8216;08 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Howard Fineman Pulls A Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Earlier today, I noted how prominent left-leaning journalists (Bob Herbert specifically) were just SURE that Harry Whittington spelt the end of the evil reign of the Republicans.  Howard Fineman is sure setting himself up for a similar fall: An Iraq war that has cost us nearly half trillion dollars—and the good will of the world—might not have done it. Runaway federal spending that allowed the national debt to reach $8.5 trillion might not have done it. George Bush’s low approval ratings, the lack of comprehensive immigration reform, the historical pattern of an anti-incumbent “six-year itch” in presidencies, the cascade of stories about administration ineptitude and dissembling and congressional financial and lobbying corruption—none of these issues seemed destined to end the Republicans’ 12 year reign in Congress. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Earlier today, I noted how prominent left-leaning journalists (Bob Herbert specifically) were just SURE that Harry Whittington spelt the end of the evil reign of the Republicans.  Howard Fineman is sure setting himself up for a similar fall: An Iraq war that has cost us nearly half trillion dollars—and the good will of the world—might not have done it. Runaway federal spending that allowed the national debt to reach $8.5 trillion might not have done it. George Bush’s low approval ratings, the lack of comprehensive immigration reform, the historical pattern of an anti-incumbent “six-year itch” in presidencies, the cascade of stories about administration ineptitude and dissembling and congressional financial and lobbying corruption—none of these issues seemed destined to end the Republicans’ 12 year reign in Congress. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mtl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dems haven&#039;t changed in thirty years.

The gop...living off of one good congressional and spending their time figuring out how to become democrats with our tax money.  Mission accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dems haven&#8217;t changed in thirty years.</p>
<p>The gop&#8230;living off of one good congressional and spending their time figuring out how to become democrats with our tax money.  Mission accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: Dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In any event, I was being weird, you’re right. I do that on occasion.&quot; 

Quel surprise. 

&quot;...had a front page story about Jack Murtha which basically portrayed him as a corrupt power broker.&quot; 

That pales compared to his role in the ABSCAM sting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In any event, I was being weird, you’re right. I do that on occasion.&#8221; </p>
<p>Quel surprise. </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;had a front page story about Jack Murtha which basically portrayed him as a corrupt power broker.&#8221; </p>
<p>That pales compared to his role in the ABSCAM sting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Mike, maybe I&#039;m projecting (i.e., I certainly don&#039;t think this is a big deal (it&#039;s a HUGE deal for the people involved, of course), and it&#039;s all a little tabloidy for my tastes)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Mike, maybe I&#8217;m projecting (i.e., I certainly don&#8217;t think this is a big deal (it&#8217;s a HUGE deal for the people involved, of course), and it&#8217;s all a little tabloidy for my tastes)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mikebdot</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikebdot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: I was only saying that unless you were saying Bevan is a sock puppet for Herbert (which is clearly not the case) then your point holds no water because of the reasons I mentioned (i.e. that if you claimed they were the same person, you could attack the messenger, but they&#039;re not the same person and therefore using a NYT article to discredit the argument of someone from RCP is sort of weird).  

I know this scandal will run it&#039;s course, just like all scandals, but 4 weeks (possible crime being committed) vs. 9 months (hunting accident with no crime).  I&#039;m willing to believe voters will indeed remember something about Foley in specific and possibly make a connection to sleazy Reps in general (either warranted or other) when they go into a voting booth before I&#039;ll believe Dick Cheney&#039;s accidental shooting will be a story that won&#039;t go away...it&#039;s already &quot;gone away&quot; in that it&#039;s only mentioned in left wing publications from time to time or on John Stewart (who, incidentally hit Condit (not to be confused with Condi, whom he also rips on all the time) very hard at the time, and continues to bring his name up from time to time).

In any event, I was being weird, you&#039;re right.  I do that on occasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: I was only saying that unless you were saying Bevan is a sock puppet for Herbert (which is clearly not the case) then your point holds no water because of the reasons I mentioned (i.e. that if you claimed they were the same person, you could attack the messenger, but they&#8217;re not the same person and therefore using a NYT article to discredit the argument of someone from RCP is sort of weird).  </p>
<p>I know this scandal will run it&#8217;s course, just like all scandals, but 4 weeks (possible crime being committed) vs. 9 months (hunting accident with no crime).  I&#8217;m willing to believe voters will indeed remember something about Foley in specific and possibly make a connection to sleazy Reps in general (either warranted or other) when they go into a voting booth before I&#8217;ll believe Dick Cheney&#8217;s accidental shooting will be a story that won&#8217;t go away&#8230;it&#8217;s already &#8220;gone away&#8221; in that it&#8217;s only mentioned in left wing publications from time to time or on John Stewart (who, incidentally hit Condit (not to be confused with Condi, whom he also rips on all the time) very hard at the time, and continues to bring his name up from time to time).</p>
<p>In any event, I was being weird, you&#8217;re right.  I do that on occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s confirmed by several people who were there:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000282.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s confirmed by several people who were there:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000282.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000282.html</a></p>
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