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		<title>By: Muslihoon</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126959</link>
		<dc:creator>Muslihoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&#8220;Bush lied, people died&#8221;?: challenging the critics&lt;/strong&gt;

A very common assertion has been, and unfortunately continues to be, that President Bush lied in order to &#8220;get&#8221; his war on Iraq. Herein I will discuss how these opponents have yet to prove or demonstrate their claims and how recent events e...</description>
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<p>A very common assertion has been, and unfortunately continues to be, that President Bush lied in order to &#8220;get&#8221; his war on Iraq. Herein I will discuss how these opponents have yet to prove or demonstrate their claims and how recent events e&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126868</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I spent sixteen years living and working in New York City -- it takes a whole lot of abuse before I get offended about something --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I spent sixteen years living and working in New York City &#8212; it takes a whole lot of abuse before I get offended about something &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126859</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, don&#039;t get offended now, you know I&#039;m only teasing with the snarkiness...we love having you here...nothing&#039;s more boring than a bunch people sitting around agreeing with each other all the time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, don&#8217;t get offended now, you know I&#8217;m only teasing with the snarkiness&#8230;we love having you here&#8230;nothing&#8217;s more boring than a bunch people sitting around agreeing with each other all the time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126853</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, hopefully you will forgive my eagerness to participate in your forum -- I did want to throw my two cents in, even though it&#039;s admittedly a little lazy intellectually to do so without reading the whole thing (which I will get to later today) --

Or, since my mind is made up, why should I confuse myself with the facts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, hopefully you will forgive my eagerness to participate in your forum &#8212; I did want to throw my two cents in, even though it&#8217;s admittedly a little lazy intellectually to do so without reading the whole thing (which I will get to later today) &#8211;</p>
<p>Or, since my mind is made up, why should I confuse myself with the facts?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126842</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s a neat trick, to read half an article and declare the rest of it &#039;minutiae&#039; sight unseen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s a neat trick, to read half an article and declare the rest of it &#8216;minutiae&#8217; sight unseen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126837</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1)  If important discoveries were made through the documents, I’m not sure that the best way to do it is through release to the general public so they can do the government’s work for them.  

2)  If the documents were vetted, obviously the process was deeply flawed.  The point is not whether there was no screening or whether the screening was ineffective:  the point is that the documents were made available. 

3)  I was able to read the first half of the article before I had to leave for work, but the salient points (to me, anyway) are that the administration overrode Negroponte to launch a PR campaign which was not properly supervised and resulted in placing nuclear secrets in the public domain.  Everything else is minutiae.

4)  As for the Times:  the public service is not in shutting down the site per se, it is in removing the documents from the public domain, which necessitated shutting down the rest of the site to make sure that other secrets are not also being given out to anyone with an IP address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1)  If important discoveries were made through the documents, I’m not sure that the best way to do it is through release to the general public so they can do the government’s work for them.  </p>
<p>2)  If the documents were vetted, obviously the process was deeply flawed.  The point is not whether there was no screening or whether the screening was ineffective:  the point is that the documents were made available. </p>
<p>3)  I was able to read the first half of the article before I had to leave for work, but the salient points (to me, anyway) are that the administration overrode Negroponte to launch a PR campaign which was not properly supervised and resulted in placing nuclear secrets in the public domain.  Everything else is minutiae.</p>
<p>4)  As for the Times:  the public service is not in shutting down the site per se, it is in removing the documents from the public domain, which necessitated shutting down the rest of the site to make sure that other secrets are not also being given out to anyone with an IP address.</p>
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		<title>By: The Right Nation</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126836</link>
		<dc:creator>The Right Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mid-Term (Open) Must-Read List /2&lt;/strong&gt;

Dick Morris, Jay Bryant, Michael Barone, Byron York, Rush Limbaugh, Neal Boortz, Ronald R. Griffin, Mark Mellman, Charlie Cook, Jonah Goldberg, Stuart Rothenberg, Mike Allen, Hugh Hewitt, Larry J. Sabato, David Wasserman, Peggy Noonan, Lawrence Kudlo...</description>
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<p>Dick Morris, Jay Bryant, Michael Barone, Byron York, Rush Limbaugh, Neal Boortz, Ronald R. Griffin, Mark Mellman, Charlie Cook, Jonah Goldberg, Stuart Rothenberg, Mike Allen, Hugh Hewitt, Larry J. Sabato, David Wasserman, Peggy Noonan, Lawrence Kudlo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126825</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, you assert a number of things that aren&#039;t true. A number of very troubling (and important) discoveries were made through these documents...click through the Captain&#039;s Quarters link if you care to see some of them catalogued.

The documents were in fact vetted, as the article itself states:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;The precise review process that led to the posting of the nuclear and chemical-weapons documents is unclear. But in testimony before Congress last spring, a senior official from Mr. Negroponte’s office, Daniel Butler, described a “triage” system used to sort out material that should remain classified. Even so, he said, the policy was to “be biased towards release if at all possible.” Government officials say all the documents in Arabic have received at least a quick review by Arabic linguists. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That may not be thorough enough but it is something.

Might I suggest actually reading the article? (Okay, snarky, I know, but still...)

Finally, I don&#039;t agree that it was a public service to shut down the site. I believe the idea of the site was and is a good idea. Obviously, however, the vetting process was not thorough enough. I&#039;m glad the nuclear documents are down, but it&#039;s too bad that this means the site may go away, too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, you assert a number of things that aren&#8217;t true. A number of very troubling (and important) discoveries were made through these documents&#8230;click through the Captain&#8217;s Quarters link if you care to see some of them catalogued.</p>
<p>The documents were in fact vetted, as the article itself states:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The precise review process that led to the posting of the nuclear and chemical-weapons documents is unclear. But in testimony before Congress last spring, a senior official from Mr. Negroponte’s office, Daniel Butler, described a “triage” system used to sort out material that should remain classified. Even so, he said, the policy was to “be biased towards release if at all possible.” Government officials say all the documents in Arabic have received at least a quick review by Arabic linguists. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>That may not be thorough enough but it is something.</p>
<p>Might I suggest actually reading the article? (Okay, snarky, I know, but still&#8230;)</p>
<p>Finally, I don&#8217;t agree that it was a public service to shut down the site. I believe the idea of the site was and is a good idea. Obviously, however, the vetting process was not thorough enough. I&#8217;m glad the nuclear documents are down, but it&#8217;s too bad that this means the site may go away, too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wake up America</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126822</link>
		<dc:creator>Wake up America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;New York Times Validates Iraqi DID Have WMD&#039;s .&lt;/strong&gt;

Once again New York Times manages to shoot itself, the Democratic party and it&#039;s credibility in the head. In their pathetic attempt to once again influence the American public in the upcoming elections, they have managed to validate the evidence that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>New York Times Validates Iraqi DID Have WMD&#8217;s .</strong></p>
<p>Once again New York Times manages to shoot itself, the Democratic party and it&#8217;s credibility in the head. In their pathetic attempt to once again influence the American public in the upcoming elections, they have managed to validate the evidence that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/03/mixed-emotions/comment-page-1/#comment-126811</link>
		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Rabbit Hole&lt;/strong&gt;

Well, the Times now claims that the information published online included primers on how to build nuclear weapons - information that could prove useful to the likes of Iran. That is, if the Times reporting itself is correct. If the reporting is indee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Rabbit Hole</strong></p>
<p>Well, the Times now claims that the information published online included primers on how to build nuclear weapons &#8211; information that could prove useful to the likes of Iran. That is, if the Times reporting itself is correct. If the reporting is indee&#8230;</p>
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