Comments on: With Or Without Dean http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:29:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Armed Liberal http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-142770 Armed Liberal Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:56:34 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-142770 Yeah, the MyDD and Kos folks will pull back their support from the party. Note that Lamont <a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.asp?ID=CTS1&Cycle=2006" rel="nofollow">raised </a> $13.9 million - $10.7 of which was his own. So in the premiere netroots campaign, they raised $3.2 million for a Senatorial campaign? Sorry, but I'm unimpressed. I think the Internet matters a lot in politics, and that the tools and networks built by the net politics folks - of whom the D netroots are the most vocal and prominent collection - are damn valuable. But Chris Bowers and Kos are no Mark Hannas. And that's a good thing... A.L. Yeah, the MyDD and Kos folks will pull back their support from the party. Note that Lamont raised $13.9 million – $10.7 of which was his own. So in the premiere netroots campaign, they raised $3.2 million for a Senatorial campaign?

Sorry, but I’m unimpressed. I think the Internet matters a lot in politics, and that the tools and networks built by the net politics folks – of whom the D netroots are the most vocal and prominent collection – are damn valuable.

But Chris Bowers and Kos are no Mark Hannas. And that’s a good thing…

A.L.

]]> By: Anti DLC http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-141163 Anti DLC Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:53:04 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-141163 There it is. The Democrats win and Carville wants to discredit victory because his DLC dems are losing grip of their consulting jobs that they have had for over a decade in charge of the party. They should now volunteer there time to campaigns and do the right thing. They have made their money. Talk about thrift with funds and partonage. I remember the DNC people Carville had found work for at the DNC. They blackballed dems they felt were there equal. The played the republican game. Jimmy Carville, Whouley and his cronies are out or not having such an influence anymore. Yea, we appreciate their help and yours but we won't have Harold Ford another DLCer continuing to dictate to us. Howard Dean's campaign was a movement and you know it. The press hated him for alot of reasons but some of your AP and UPI friends did him in by highlighting off key remarks or jestures in his Presidential campaign. If they had highlighted Kerry giggling as firemen punched women to the ground at a Saint Anselem's College debate in New Hampshire, his campaign would have been over and your old cronies would have had to campaign for someone else. Howard Dean has done alot for the party Jimmy. You and Paul had your chance and we got Newt. David Wilhelm wasn't the brighest bulb on the tree. Calm Down Don't your kids have Soccer practice or something. There it is. The Democrats win and Carville wants to discredit victory because his DLC dems are losing grip of their consulting jobs that they have had for over a decade in charge of the party. They should now volunteer there time to campaigns and do the right thing. They have made their money.

Talk about thrift with funds and partonage. I remember the DNC people Carville had found work for at the DNC. They blackballed dems they felt were there equal. The played the republican game. Jimmy Carville, Whouley and his cronies are out or not having such an influence anymore. Yea, we appreciate their help and yours but we won’t have Harold Ford another DLCer continuing to dictate to us. Howard Dean’s campaign was a movement and you know it.

The press hated him for alot of reasons but some of your AP and UPI friends did him in by highlighting off key remarks or jestures in his Presidential campaign. If they had highlighted Kerry giggling as firemen punched women to the ground at a Saint Anselem’s College debate in New Hampshire, his campaign would have been over and your old cronies would have had to campaign for someone else.

Howard Dean has done alot for the party Jimmy. You and Paul had your chance and we got Newt. David Wilhelm wasn’t the brighest bulb on the tree.

Calm Down

Don’t your kids have Soccer practice or something.

]]> By: Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » Media Matters: A New Low In Pettiness http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-138776 Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » Media Matters: A New Low In Pettiness Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:09:10 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-138776 [...] Mr. Soros, how about you give these people a real job somewhere, and fold up this sham?  Besides, you’re irrelevant now that Chris Bowers controls tens of millions of dollars of Democratic donor money… [...] [...] Mr. Soros, how about you give these people a real job somewhere, and fold up this sham?  Besides, you’re irrelevant now that Chris Bowers controls tens of millions of dollars of Democratic donor money… [...]

]]> By: Major Minor http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-138725 Major Minor Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:53:51 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-138725 Others have observed that Clinton is one of the few Democrats that actually looks happy. I've always maintained that this is because he never bought into the philosophy of misery and pessimism that drives most liberals who actually believe their party's propaganda. Unlike his wife, the committed Marxist, Slick Willie never had any real political philosophy at all, but just adopted whatever protective coloration that he thought would sell to the public and get him the power and ego-gratification (amongst other types) by which he is driven. In other cultures, he'd have happily embraced Mormonism, the anti-Masonic ticket, or cannibalism if he thought it would help the marketing effort. Beliefs be damned -- he discovered his market niche, marketed the product successfully, and got what he wanted. Who wouldn't be happy? Others have observed that Clinton is one of the few Democrats that actually looks happy. I’ve always maintained that this is because he never bought into the philosophy of misery and pessimism that drives most liberals who actually believe their party’s propaganda.

Unlike his wife, the committed Marxist, Slick Willie never had any real political philosophy at all, but just adopted whatever protective coloration that he thought would sell to the public and get him the power and ego-gratification (amongst other types) by which he is driven.

In other cultures, he’d have happily embraced Mormonism, the anti-Masonic ticket, or cannibalism if he thought it would help the marketing effort.

Beliefs be damned — he discovered his market niche, marketed the product successfully, and got what he wanted. Who wouldn’t be happy?

]]> By: Rational http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-138093 Rational Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:40:21 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-138093 Leave Dean alone is my message to Carville - he's done more for the Democrats (constituents) than anyone I can remember in my Democratic voting lifetime which started in 1973. He should start worrying about Barack Obama because if he thinks Hillary will make it . . . he's dead wrong. Leave Dean alone is my message to Carville – he’s done more for the Democrats (constituents) than anyone I can remember in my Democratic voting lifetime which started in 1973. He should start worrying about Barack Obama because if he thinks Hillary will make it . . . he’s dead wrong.

]]> By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-136670 peter Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:24:24 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-136670 The Democrats have been deteriorating for a while as a national party operation. Dean came in at a time when the party had abandoned a good chunk of the country after years of the Dems trying to focus their efforts in the places where they would be most successful. The problem for the Dems now is that this is was a one-time deal. After you've reactivated in all fifty states you can't do it again, and thus you can't get the same benefit again. Dean better have more than one trick in his bag. The Democrats have been deteriorating for a while as a national party operation. Dean came in at a time when the party had abandoned a good chunk of the country after years of the Dems trying to focus their efforts in the places where they would be most successful.

The problem for the Dems now is that this is was a one-time deal. After you’ve reactivated in all fifty states you can’t do it again, and thus you can’t get the same benefit again. Dean better have more than one trick in his bag.

]]> By: FullosseousFlap’s Dental Blog » President Election 2008 Watch: KOS V. CARVILLE http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-136437 FullosseousFlap’s Dental Blog » President Election 2008 Watch: KOS V. CARVILLE Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:16:47 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-136437 [...] Flap loves a good CAT FIGHT. (Via Ace) [...] [...] Flap loves a good CAT FIGHT. (Via Ace) [...]

]]> By: Bob Jacobs http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-136410 Bob Jacobs Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:45:35 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-136410 Lemont was an empty suit and that is why he lost. He could not even win in an enviroment that was anti-Iraq. Lemont was an empty suit and that is why he lost. He could not even win in an enviroment that was anti-Iraq.

]]> By: Seamus http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-135882 Seamus Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:39:16 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-135882 Seriously, we're running out of feet to shoot. Seriously, we’re running out of feet to shoot.

]]> By: Scrapiron http://informedspeculation.com/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/comment-page-1/#comment-135814 Scrapiron Sat, 11 Nov 2006 05:33:55 +0000 http://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/#comment-135814 The first proof that the dim's won without a plan for America or the WOT was when they called in George McGovern, the leader of the massive loss of life in Southeast Asia, along with Hanoi John, during their first successful 'cut and run' operation. One thing about the dim's, they love to have the blood of miliions on they're hands. Poor old KOS is on the verge of slitting his wrist, setting himself on fire and jumping from a tall building. Think Lamont has demanded his $12 million + back? Looking forward to a fun two years. That is if we live through it. The first proof that the dim’s won without a plan for America or the WOT was when they called in George McGovern, the leader of the massive loss of life in Southeast Asia, along with Hanoi John, during their first successful ‘cut and run’ operation. One thing about the dim’s, they love to have the blood of miliions on they’re hands.

Poor old KOS is on the verge of slitting his wrist, setting himself on fire and jumping from a tall building. Think Lamont has demanded his $12 million + back?

Looking forward to a fun two years. That is if we live through it.

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