Comments on: Upping The Ante http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: peter http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-213437 peter Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:34:32 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-213437 Dennis, you raise a very good point, and I think I ought to back off until more is known. What caught my eye was this line from the Post story: "The administration's plans contain five "theaters of interest," as one senior official put it, with military, intelligence, political and diplomatic strategies designed to target Iranian interests across the Middle East." I made the assumption that one of those theaters was inside Iran, but this may be unwarranted. I couldn't find anything in the Times about it -- presumably WaPo had an exclusive. It will be interesting to see how this develops. Dennis, you raise a very good point, and I think I ought to back off until more is known. What caught my eye was this line from the Post story:

“The administration’s plans contain five “theaters of interest,” as one senior official put it, with military, intelligence, political and diplomatic strategies designed to target Iranian interests across the Middle East.”

I made the assumption that one of those theaters was inside Iran, but this may be unwarranted. I couldn’t find anything in the Times about it — presumably WaPo had an exclusive. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

]]> By: Dennis http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-213341 Dennis Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:14:18 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-213341 I think you'd have more of a point, Peter, if we were talking about Americans going into Iran and snatching Iranians there. But we're talking about Iranians who are helping attacks on Americans in Iraq. How is this different from fighting non-Iraqis who have gone to Iraq to help Al Qaeda? I think you’d have more of a point, Peter, if we were talking about Americans going into Iran and snatching Iranians there. But we’re talking about Iranians who are helping attacks on Americans in Iraq. How is this different from fighting non-Iraqis who have gone to Iraq to help Al Qaeda?

]]> By: Peter http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-213310 Peter Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:17:35 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-213310 Mark, I think that is a distinction without a difference -- Absent a declaration of war, the President does not have the right to kill or capture within another sovereign state. Forget the moral question -- do we allow other countries to kill or capture Americans within our borders? by what right do we kill or capture foreign citizens? -- the fact is that these are acts of war, regardless of whether it is hot or cold. Mark, I think that is a distinction without a difference —

Absent a declaration of war, the President does not have the right to kill or capture within another sovereign state. Forget the moral question — do we allow other countries to kill or capture Americans within our borders? by what right do we kill or capture foreign citizens? — the fact is that these are acts of war, regardless of whether it is hot or cold.

]]> By: too many steves http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-213308 too many steves Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:16:06 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-213308 And it is being fought within the confines of an approved military engagement. And it is being fought within the confines of an approved military engagement.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-213280 Mark Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:49:56 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-213280 But that's the point of my last comment, Peter; it's a cold war, not a hot one, and nothing has been (or will be) declared (at the moment, at least)... But that’s the point of my last comment, Peter; it’s a cold war, not a hot one, and nothing has been (or will be) declared (at the moment, at least)…

]]> By: Peter http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-213272 Peter Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:45:41 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-213272 In my view, this is an impeachable offense. Congress has the power to declare war, not the President. End of story. In my view, this is an impeachable offense. Congress has the power to declare war, not the President. End of story.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-213240 Mark Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:21:59 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-213240 Man, another blooper! Thanks, corrected that one, too... Man, another blooper! Thanks, corrected that one, too…

]]> By: too many steves http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-213217 too many steves Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:12:53 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-213217 And I suspect you mean the Israeli soldiers remain captured or have not been released, correct? And I suspect you mean the Israeli soldiers remain captured or have not been released, correct?

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-213146 Mark Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:52:10 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-213146 Yes, sorry, I'll correct that... Yes, sorry, I’ll correct that…

]]> By: darcy_lane http://informedspeculation.com/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/comment-page-1/#comment-212904 darcy_lane Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:06:58 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/01/25/upping-the-ante/#comment-212904 kid's gloves? :p I guess you mean 'kid gloves', much as it pains me to correct you (as in gloves made of kidskin, as in baby goats. I would guess they are very dainty gloves, and you would remove them to do heavy work, hence the expression? kid’s gloves? :p
I guess you mean ‘kid gloves’, much as it pains me to correct you (as in gloves made of kidskin, as in baby goats. I would guess they are very dainty gloves, and you would remove them to do heavy work, hence the expression?

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