Comments on: The Dark Side Of Rudy http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: kj http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/comment-page-1/#comment-275974 kj Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:40:17 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/#comment-275974 first i would like to pin out , would somebody please tell me what remarkable thing goulini did , honestly his political career was over before 911 , and i'm sick and tired of people saying that he cleaned up new york , yes crime went down due to his gustopo like tactics that he used against minorities , liberals , taxi and squeegee man , and the homeless seriously , if you think about it if you put somebody within the system that goes in the statistics on crime progress waging war on pot heads and people with petty liquor warrants is not sufficient strategy in reducing crime that "totalitarianism" yes he made the exterior of 42nd street look good , only for the cooperations that control it. yes he was a good figure head in making the nation believe that things were under control , but look at the deeds that this man committed while he was in office , brutality went up , if your idea of busting heads is strategy fighting crime , if you really want to reduce crime create more vacational programs or education institutions ,the wage war on welfare was only set out to evict people out of there homes , who you going to evict the whole family just for one deeds , if anyone who want to retaliate against that statement , you just cant kick out your teenager while you have custody , that antics was only help privitized public housing like they are doing all over the country , he screw up funds for the board of ed . housing which to laid off employees matter of fact he tried to slash budget for transits and other city organizations , there is alot of money missing that was unaccounted for that were never question first i would like to pin out , would somebody please tell me what remarkable thing goulini did , honestly his political career was over before 911 , and i’m sick and tired of people saying that he cleaned up new york , yes crime went down due to his gustopo like tactics that he used against minorities , liberals , taxi and squeegee man , and the homeless seriously , if you think about it if you put somebody within the system that goes in the statistics on crime progress waging war on pot heads and people with petty liquor warrants is not sufficient strategy in reducing crime that “totalitarianism” yes he made the exterior of 42nd street look good , only for the cooperations that control it.
yes he was a good figure head in making the nation believe that things were under control , but look at the deeds that this man committed while he was in office , brutality went up , if your idea of busting heads is strategy fighting crime , if you really want to reduce crime create more vacational programs or education institutions ,the wage war on welfare was only set out to evict people out of there homes , who you going to evict the whole family just for one deeds , if anyone who want to retaliate against that statement , you just cant kick out your teenager while you have custody , that antics was only help privitized public housing like they are doing all over the country , he screw up funds for the board of ed . housing which to laid off employees matter of fact he tried to slash budget for transits and other city organizations , there is alot of money missing that was unaccounted for that were never question

]]> By: Sean P http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/comment-page-1/#comment-228187 Sean P Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:35:12 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/#comment-228187 Party of the prickliness comes, I think, from the fact that Rudy is a man of action, and doesn't take kindly to the foot dragging and ass-covering that is so prevelant in governmental bureaucracy. I remember about 12 or so years ago, David Letterman used to have a segment where he would set up a camera next to some enormous pothole in the streets of New York and see how many days it took to get it fixed (with daily updates to his audience). I never saw how Dinkins handled it, but Rudy would respond by putting on a construction hat, grabbing a shovel, and filling the pothole himself. It made for good TV, obviously, but I also think it reflected his management and leadership style. Party of the prickliness comes, I think, from the fact that Rudy is a man of action, and doesn’t take kindly to the foot dragging and ass-covering that is so prevelant in governmental bureaucracy. I remember about 12 or so years ago, David Letterman used to have a segment where he would set up a camera next to some enormous pothole in the streets of New York and see how many days it took to get it fixed (with daily updates to his audience). I never saw how Dinkins handled it, but Rudy would respond by putting on a construction hat, grabbing a shovel, and filling the pothole himself. It made for good TV, obviously, but I also think it reflected his management and leadership style.

]]> By: Aaron http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/comment-page-1/#comment-228158 Aaron Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:14:21 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/#comment-228158 But why are <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2546081,00.html" rel="nofollow">"civil rights leaders"</a> so critical of Obama? Aren't they supposed to be on the same side? But why are “civil rights leaders” so critical of Obama? Aren’t they supposed to be on the same side?

]]> By: PoliticalCritic http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/comment-page-1/#comment-228138 PoliticalCritic Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:02:32 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/#comment-228138 I'm in the third camp which is the one where Rudy is just an unethical and corrupt scumbag. The way he humiliated his wife on live television is reprehensible. He cheated on her for a dozen years and then dumped her on tv. Then there is all the corruption and cronyism inside his mayoral office. He is a power-hungry nutjob. I’m in the third camp which is the one where Rudy is just an unethical and corrupt scumbag. The way he humiliated his wife on live television is reprehensible. He cheated on her for a dozen years and then dumped her on tv. Then there is all the corruption and cronyism inside his mayoral office. He is a power-hungry nutjob.

]]> By: Dennis http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/comment-page-1/#comment-228115 Dennis Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:45:53 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/#comment-228115 Actually, Fargus, I think that's true. I think Republicans are far more worried about Obama in the long run than Hillary. Hillary Clinton is a known quantity. Obama isn't, and his appeal is much the same as Giuliani's; he's the outsider who doesn't start off with lots of people hating his guts, and I think the American people are looking for a something to break the viciousness of recent partisan debates. Obama may be the person. Hillary Clinton isn't. I think Giuliani's temperment is an important issue. My impression of his mayorality was he did better fighting crusades than in day-to-day stuff. That was good in New York, because there were a lot of crusades that needed fighting (welfare reform, crime fighting, battling the entrenched bureaucracies, etc.). I think as president, he would fight harder than most of the other candidates against the ever-growing government, and that's one of the reasons I'm intrigued by him. But I do worry that some of his more petty, controlling behavior could undercut him. However, I'm not sure we'll ever know for certain how his temperment has changed. As Mark noted, there may be a campaign bump that provides insight. Maybe not. Ultimately, any presidential election is about trying to get a sense of the candidate's judgment in unforseen circumstances, a tricky business no matter who is running. Actually, Fargus, I think that’s true. I think Republicans are far more worried about Obama in the long run than Hillary. Hillary Clinton is a known quantity. Obama isn’t, and his appeal is much the same as Giuliani’s; he’s the outsider who doesn’t start off with lots of people hating his guts, and I think the American people are looking for a something to break the viciousness of recent partisan debates. Obama may be the person. Hillary Clinton isn’t.

I think Giuliani’s temperment is an important issue. My impression of his mayorality was he did better fighting crusades than in day-to-day stuff. That was good in New York, because there were a lot of crusades that needed fighting (welfare reform, crime fighting, battling the entrenched bureaucracies, etc.). I think as president, he would fight harder than most of the other candidates against the ever-growing government, and that’s one of the reasons I’m intrigued by him. But I do worry that some of his more petty, controlling behavior could undercut him.

However, I’m not sure we’ll ever know for certain how his temperment has changed. As Mark noted, there may be a campaign bump that provides insight. Maybe not. Ultimately, any presidential election is about trying to get a sense of the candidate’s judgment in unforseen circumstances, a tricky business no matter who is running.

]]> By: Fargus http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/comment-page-1/#comment-228083 Fargus Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:03:48 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/#comment-228083 Clean their clock in a general election? So attacks on somebody on the other side indicate a real fear? In light of that, this must be proof positive that Obama will beat everybody, right? Clean their clock in a general election? So attacks on somebody on the other side indicate a real fear?

In light of that, this must be proof positive that Obama will beat everybody, right?

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/comment-page-1/#comment-228035 Mark Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:25:21 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/#comment-228035 Just for the record, I agree with both of you - the volume of these anti-Rudy screeds says everything about how badly he scares the Democrats... Just for the record, I agree with both of you – the volume of these anti-Rudy screeds says everything about how badly he scares the Democrats…

]]> By: jpg http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/comment-page-1/#comment-228026 jpg Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:21:11 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/#comment-228026 Oh, please. Jonathan Alter? Him having the long knives out for Giuliani just shows how scared liberals are of him winning. Every time I see a liberal attacking a Republican, I know it means that's a repub the liberal's are afraid will beat their own candidate. Notice how no one writes about Duncan Hunter? Why? Because he's got no shot. The liberals are scared to death of Giuliani because he'll clean anybody's clock in the general election. They' ve got to destroy him now. Oh, please. Jonathan Alter? Him having the long knives out for Giuliani just shows how scared liberals are of him winning. Every time I see a liberal attacking a Republican, I know it means that’s a repub the liberal’s are afraid will beat their own candidate. Notice how no one writes about Duncan Hunter? Why? Because he’s got no shot. The liberals are scared to death of Giuliani because he’ll clean anybody’s clock in the general election. They’ ve got to destroy him now.

]]> By: DBrooks http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/comment-page-1/#comment-228006 DBrooks Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:02:43 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/07/the-dark-side-of-rudy/#comment-228006 This is a nice counter to Alter's column holding up Hillary's temperament to scrutiny, and wondering whether she is "temperamentally unsuited to the presidency?" HAHAHA. These continuing transparent attempts to undermine Giuliani's candidacy before it gets started are amusing. As I have said, and many others of course, Giuliani worries Democrats more than any other Republican nominee. We can expect more claims of his "unsuitability" and "he can't win the Republican nomination because of social issues," and so on right up to the the day he wins the election in an easy electoral victory. This is a nice counter to Alter’s column holding up Hillary’s temperament to scrutiny, and wondering whether she is “temperamentally unsuited to the presidency?” HAHAHA. These continuing transparent attempts to undermine Giuliani’s candidacy before it gets started are amusing. As I have said, and many others of course, Giuliani worries Democrats more than any other Republican nominee. We can expect more claims of his “unsuitability” and “he can’t win the Republican nomination because of social issues,” and so on right up to the the day he wins the election in an easy electoral victory.

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