Comments on: Edwards Caves To The Nutroots® http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:29:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229834 Mark Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:50:43 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229834 jpe, true Catholics don't think their religion is a 'mythology', they think it's the revealed word of God. They may be wrong, but even the mythology part would be offensive to a great many...but let's face it, we're dancing around the issue - the real problem, offensive-wise, is the sexual imagery around the Holy Spirit and Mary, and we all know it. jpe, true Catholics don’t think their religion is a ‘mythology’, they think it’s the revealed word of God. They may be wrong, but even the mythology part would be offensive to a great many…but let’s face it, we’re dancing around the issue – the real problem, offensive-wise, is the sexual imagery around the Holy Spirit and Mary, and we all know it.

]]> By: mikebdot http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229730 mikebdot Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:01:41 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229730 Mark: Hardy har har. Love how you argue merits, especially when you're wrong. Gwedd: They don't go after Islam because there aren't any Islamic fundamentalists making our laws today...but there are certainly Catholics.... Mark: Hardy har har. Love how you argue merits, especially when you’re wrong.

Gwedd: They don’t go after Islam because there aren’t any Islamic fundamentalists making our laws today…but there are certainly Catholics….

]]> By: jpe http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229709 jpe Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:30:39 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229709 <blockquote>she called it a misogynistic mythology</blockquote> No, she didn't. She noted that some had tried to justify their own misogyny w/ Biblical mythology.

she called it a misogynistic mythology

No, she didn’t. She noted that some had tried to justify their own misogyny w/ Biblical mythology.

]]> By: Gwedd http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229706 Gwedd Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:14:48 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229706 Comrades, And yet, lost in all of this is that John Edwards, ambulance chaser 'par excellence" has coldly decided that the nomination fight will be between him and Hillary. His choice of doing whatever it cost to gain the support of the Nutroots® means that he knows Hillary will be bringing out the extra sharp knives, and he intends to be ready with his own pack of hired assasins. It's how he works. And as for the good little bloggers, they haven't fooled anyone with their cloy and plastic non-apologies. They have a special venom designed for Catholics, whom they regard as worse than dirt because of perceived attitudes/dogmas within Catholicism which they disagree with. However, after spending a day searching theorugh their past screeds, i have yet to see them apply the same sort of vitriol to Islam, whose blatantly mysoginistic dogma is displayed on the frontsheets of daily's around the world! John Edwards is a shameless bully, a Janus who preaches of "two Americas" while he does everything in his power to make certain he and his family stay in the "other" America. The one with the well-manicured grass and the lawn jockey by the gate. Respects, Comrades,

And yet, lost in all of this is that John Edwards, ambulance chaser ‘par excellence” has coldly decided that the nomination fight will be between him and Hillary. His choice of doing whatever it cost to gain the support of the Nutroots® means that he knows Hillary will be bringing out the extra sharp knives, and he intends to be ready with his own pack of hired assasins. It’s how he works.

And as for the good little bloggers, they haven’t fooled anyone with their cloy and plastic non-apologies. They have a special venom designed for Catholics, whom they regard as worse than dirt because of perceived attitudes/dogmas within Catholicism which they disagree with.

However, after spending a day searching theorugh their past screeds, i have yet to see them apply the same sort of vitriol to Islam, whose blatantly mysoginistic dogma is displayed on the frontsheets of daily’s around the world!

John Edwards is a shameless bully, a Janus who preaches of “two Americas” while he does everything in his power to make certain he and his family stay in the “other” America. The one with the well-manicured grass and the lawn jockey by the gate.

Respects,

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229704 Mark Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:09:33 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229704 Yes, Mike, this is all about you... Yes, Mike, this is all about you…

]]> By: mikebdot http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229696 mikebdot Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:03:59 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229696 I didn't say it wasn't offensive to Catholics, I said it isn't offensive to ME. You said the statement is transparently offensive by ANY STANDARD. Drama queen.... I didn’t say it wasn’t offensive to Catholics, I said it isn’t offensive to ME. You said the statement is transparently offensive by ANY STANDARD.

Drama queen….

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229693 Mark Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:59:59 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229693 Gee, Mike, I guess you missed the part where Edwards said he found it personally offensive and an example of the sort of intolerant language he won't tolerate...except when leaned on really, really hard by the Nutroots®... Anyway, I am way past tired with this charade. You want to pretend you can't see how using sexually charged language to talk about the Holy Spirit and the mother of Jesus is offensive to Catholics, go peddle it somewhere else. Absurd... Gee, Mike, I guess you missed the part where Edwards said he found it personally offensive and an example of the sort of intolerant language he won’t tolerate…except when leaned on really, really hard by the Nutroots®…

Anyway, I am way past tired with this charade. You want to pretend you can’t see how using sexually charged language to talk about the Holy Spirit and the mother of Jesus is offensive to Catholics, go peddle it somewhere else.

Absurd…

]]> By: mikebdot http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229682 mikebdot Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:46:15 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229682 Mark: It's funny by MY standard, so you're wrong. Does it make you a LIAR? No. It makes you WRONG. It's a funny quote. It does not offend me one bit. (Note the distinction between being wrong and being a liar...something you might consider regarding Edwards...but you already have an axe to gring with him...we know this...and no, I'm not saying he is wrong, just that it's a possibility. How does that statement malign anyone's religion? It calls it misogynist? Do you think that is incorrect? Argue the merit, just once in this whole discussion...) Mark: It’s funny by MY standard, so you’re wrong. Does it make you a LIAR? No. It makes you WRONG. It’s a funny quote. It does not offend me one bit. (Note the distinction between being wrong and being a liar…something you might consider regarding Edwards…but you already have an axe to gring with him…we know this…and no, I’m not saying he is wrong, just that it’s a possibility. How does that statement malign anyone’s religion? It calls it misogynist? Do you think that is incorrect? Argue the merit, just once in this whole discussion…)

]]> By: Ken McCracken http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229653 Ken McCracken Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:53:11 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229653 Let's hope that embracing the Nutroots® will now make John Edwards the new Ned Lamont. Now, everytime I see the Breck Girl on television pretending to be so avuncular and reasonable, I will remind myself that he hired two frothing bigots to blog for him. Let’s hope that embracing the Nutroots® will now make John Edwards the new Ned Lamont.

Now, everytime I see the Breck Girl on television pretending to be so avuncular and reasonable, I will remind myself that he hired two frothing bigots to blog for him.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/comment-page-1/#comment-229645 Mark Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:42:31 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/08/edwards-caves-to-the-nutroots%c2%ae/#comment-229645 Well, Andy, I think it's hard to read Edward's statement and read it as anything but a cave...and if you bothered to read Atrios, Chris Bowers, Huff'n'Puff, Kos, etc., yesterday, you know the unbelievable pressure that was on Edwards to cave...but again, read the statement itself, and tell me that you believe Edwards is sincere in his acceptance that Marcotte did not mean to malign anyone's faith. If he is sincere, he's illiterate... I realize that he was also under a lot of pressure from the right, and Donohue's ilk, etc., but he did the politically expedient thing and ignored the people who weren't going to vote for him anyway. I still say it will come back to bite him, because the Catholic vote is not insubstantial, and you can bet this incident will rear its head again... Well, Andy, I think it’s hard to read Edward’s statement and read it as anything but a cave…and if you bothered to read Atrios, Chris Bowers, Huff’n'Puff, Kos, etc., yesterday, you know the unbelievable pressure that was on Edwards to cave…but again, read the statement itself, and tell me that you believe Edwards is sincere in his acceptance that Marcotte did not mean to malign anyone’s faith.

If he is sincere, he’s illiterate…

I realize that he was also under a lot of pressure from the right, and Donohue’s ilk, etc., but he did the politically expedient thing and ignored the people who weren’t going to vote for him anyway.

I still say it will come back to bite him, because the Catholic vote is not insubstantial, and you can bet this incident will rear its head again…

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