Comments on: Hitchens On Hillary: See How They Run http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » More On Hillary’s Iraq Problem http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/comment-page-1/#comment-235209 Decision ‘08 » Blog Archive » More On Hillary’s Iraq Problem Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:01:23 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/#comment-235209 [...] Yesterday, we highlighted Christopher Hitchens doing a typical bang-up takedown, and today, it’s Mickey Kaus: Is Hillary Clinton’s campaign really trying to pretend, through vigorous Webbery, that she didn’t support the war? That’s what Matt Yglesias claims. If true, that’s a bit different than simply stubbornly refusing to apologize for your support; it’s trying to deny that you have anything to refuse to apologize for! And it’s kind of pathetic. Hillary’s had a long time to think about what she’d say in this situation. Not even her husband could get away with that much slickness. He managed to position himself for-and-against Iraq War I, but only because he didn’t have to vote on it (and because the war was over and old news by the time he had to stand before the voters). … [...] [...] Yesterday, we highlighted Christopher Hitchens doing a typical bang-up takedown, and today, it’s Mickey Kaus: Is Hillary Clinton’s campaign really trying to pretend, through vigorous Webbery, that she didn’t support the war? That’s what Matt Yglesias claims. If true, that’s a bit different than simply stubbornly refusing to apologize for your support; it’s trying to deny that you have anything to refuse to apologize for! And it’s kind of pathetic. Hillary’s had a long time to think about what she’d say in this situation. Not even her husband could get away with that much slickness. He managed to position himself for-and-against Iraq War I, but only because he didn’t have to vote on it (and because the war was over and old news by the time he had to stand before the voters). … [...]

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/comment-page-1/#comment-235054 Mark Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:40:24 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/#comment-235054 jpe, you said: <em>A war requires more evidence than non-military measures. </em> Those sure sound like military measures to me... jpe, you said:

A war requires more evidence than non-military measures.

Those sure sound like military measures to me…

]]> By: jpe http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/comment-page-1/#comment-235045 jpe Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:06:26 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/#comment-235045 Mark, you aren't seriously equating limited tactical strikes with a full-out invasion and occupation, are you? Mark, you aren’t seriously equating limited tactical strikes with a full-out invasion and occupation, are you?

]]> By: Aaron http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/comment-page-1/#comment-234666 Aaron Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:23:03 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/#comment-234666 In <i>The Pentagon's New Map</i>, Thomas PM Barnett mentioned that when the Bush administration came to office in 2001, their primary focus was not on the Middle East in general, much less Iraq specifically, but China as a potential super-power rival, as had generally been the foreign policy focus among conservatives pre-9/11. Few people remember now, but in 2000, then-Governor Bush ran on a platform of a more modest foreign policy, criticizing the entire concept of "nation-building" and before 9/11 the major foreign affairs event was the spy plane that had been captured by the People's Republic. It was only after 9/11 that the focus went from China to terrorism. In The Pentagon’s New Map, Thomas PM Barnett mentioned that when the Bush administration came to office in 2001, their primary focus was not on the Middle East in general, much less Iraq specifically, but China as a potential super-power rival, as had generally been the foreign policy focus among conservatives pre-9/11. Few people remember now, but in 2000, then-Governor Bush ran on a platform of a more modest foreign policy, criticizing the entire concept of “nation-building” and before 9/11 the major foreign affairs event was the spy plane that had been captured by the People’s Republic. It was only after 9/11 that the focus went from China to terrorism.

]]> By: Mark http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/comment-page-1/#comment-234641 Mark Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:26:09 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/#comment-234641 Bombing factories is not a military measure? Four-day aerial assaults are not military measures? Jeez - are we in the spin zone now, or what?... Bombing factories is not a military measure? Four-day aerial assaults are not military measures? Jeez – are we in the spin zone now, or what?…

]]> By: jpe http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/comment-page-1/#comment-234639 jpe Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:20:15 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/02/12/hitchens-on-hillary-see-how-they-run/#comment-234639 Different measures, different standards of proof. A war requires more evidence than non-military measures. Different measures, different standards of proof. A war requires more evidence than non-military measures.

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