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	<title>Comments on: Who&#8217;s Stifling Debate?</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Liberal</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/18/whos-stifling-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-239089</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Mark, the moderates and independents are also demanding that Congress do something about Iraq.  That&#039;s why they voted overwhelmingly for the Democrats in November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Mark, the moderates and independents are also demanding that Congress do something about Iraq.  That&#8217;s why they voted overwhelmingly for the Democrats in November.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/18/whos-stifling-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-239086</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understood Ben Nelson in the interview I saw yesterday, he stated he was against the resolution at least. I would assume that that means he&#039;s for the surge. And he&#039;s definitely a Democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understood Ben Nelson in the interview I saw yesterday, he stated he was against the resolution at least. I would assume that that means he&#8217;s for the surge. And he&#8217;s definitely a Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, admittedly, Kaus&#039;s whole theory is a bit far-fetched...but not the part about the vote being held to placate the left.  As you yourself have admitted, he knew he didn&#039;t have the votes - but he had to try again anyway or be eviscerated by the progressives...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, admittedly, Kaus&#8217;s whole theory is a bit far-fetched&#8230;but not the part about the vote being held to placate the left.  As you yourself have admitted, he knew he didn&#8217;t have the votes &#8211; but he had to try again anyway or be eviscerated by the progressives&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Liberal</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/02/18/whos-stifling-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-239012</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I don&#039;t know what universe Kaus is living in, but the notion that the Senate Democrats are afraid to go on the record against the surge is totally ridiculous.  Every democratic senator except Lieberman (if he counts) is already on the record as being against the surge.  It not like they&#039;re going to somehow be able to say later that they supported the surge.  Please, that&#039;s ridiculous.  

The people who did not want to go on the record are the Republicans in the Senate.  They want to be able to claim--disingenously--that they were only voting to continue debate.  Can you really not see this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I don&#8217;t know what universe Kaus is living in, but the notion that the Senate Democrats are afraid to go on the record against the surge is totally ridiculous.  Every democratic senator except Lieberman (if he counts) is already on the record as being against the surge.  It not like they&#8217;re going to somehow be able to say later that they supported the surge.  Please, that&#8217;s ridiculous.  </p>
<p>The people who did not want to go on the record are the Republicans in the Senate.  They want to be able to claim&#8211;disingenously&#8211;that they were only voting to continue debate.  Can you really not see this?</p>
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