Comments on: And The Winner (So Far)… http://informedspeculation.com/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/ Refunds Cheerfully Given To All Who Disagree Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:00:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dennis http://informedspeculation.com/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/comment-page-1/#comment-254442 Dennis Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:03:09 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/#comment-254442 I just want to know how a verdict can be "vehement." I just want to know how a verdict can be “vehement.”

]]> By: Aaron http://informedspeculation.com/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/comment-page-1/#comment-254244 Aaron Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:58:59 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/#comment-254244 From Wikipedia article on Joe Wilson: <blockquote cite>The Senate Intelligence Committee Report also finds that Wilson's description of the information provided to him by the CIA differed from the CIA's account. Wilson claimed that the CIA told him about documents pertaining to an alleged uranium sale to Iraq. The CIA reports officer denied giving Wilson any such information and noted there were no such "documents" circulating at the time. citation: Many further details of former Ambassador Wilson's trip to Niger can be found in the body of the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq, which contains a 48-page section dealing with intelligence related to Niger. GPO Access.gov The Senate Intelligence Committee ReportPDF July 7, 2006, updated July 9, 2006, accessed September 18, 2006.</blockquote> I don't know for certain, but I would assume that the "description" mentioned was given in testimony before Congress. From Wikipedia article on Joe Wilson:

The Senate Intelligence Committee Report also finds that Wilson’s description of the information provided to him by the CIA differed from the CIA’s account.

Wilson claimed that the CIA told him about documents pertaining to an alleged uranium sale to Iraq.
The CIA reports officer denied giving Wilson any such information and noted there were no such “documents” circulating at the time.

citation: Many further details of former Ambassador Wilson’s trip to Niger can be found in the body of the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq, which contains a 48-page section dealing with intelligence related to Niger. GPO Access.gov The Senate Intelligence Committee ReportPDF July 7, 2006, updated July 9, 2006, accessed September 18, 2006.

I don’t know for certain, but I would assume that the “description” mentioned was given in testimony before Congress.

]]> By: Mike http://informedspeculation.com/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/comment-page-1/#comment-254142 Mike Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:35:57 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/#comment-254142 If anything, all this debacle showed was the truley insipid nature of "leak" politics. We have seen it in all administrations. Libby didn't leak squat. Or at least he wasn't convicted of it, nor was he charged. Can anyone really remeber every little detail of every cnversation you have with the people you deal with everyday? Perjury is a cop out charge, especially in this gossip and leak rich environment. Don't get me wrong, it is a crime, and in most cases it should be punished. But here, I think it was an over reach. We had a cop up here in Boston who was charged, tried, and convicted federally of perjury. He had to prove he didn't see something. It took 10 years and Bob Bennet to get his conviction overturned. He just started back to work as a Patrolman. He lost a lot of years, but justice prevailed. I think it will here to. As far as I could tell, they were all lying. Russert, Mitchell, Fleisher, Wilson, Plame, Wilson, Cooper....all of them and more. If anything, all this debacle showed was the truley insipid nature of “leak” politics. We have seen it in all administrations. Libby didn’t leak squat. Or at least he wasn’t convicted of it, nor was he charged. Can anyone really remeber every little detail of every cnversation you have with the people you deal with everyday? Perjury is a cop out charge, especially in this gossip and leak rich environment. Don’t get me wrong, it is a crime, and in most cases it should be punished. But here, I think it was an over reach.

We had a cop up here in Boston who was charged, tried, and convicted federally of perjury. He had to prove he didn’t see something. It took 10 years and Bob Bennet to get his conviction overturned. He just started back to work as a Patrolman. He lost a lot of years, but justice prevailed. I think it will here to.

As far as I could tell, they were all lying. Russert, Mitchell, Fleisher, Wilson, Plame, Wilson, Cooper….all of them and more.

]]> By: Fargus http://informedspeculation.com/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/comment-page-1/#comment-254081 Fargus Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:29:13 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/#comment-254081 What did Joe Wilson lie under oath to Congress about? And since when is justice relative? If a rapist is convicted today, does it mean nothing because a car thief is still walking the streets? What did Joe Wilson lie under oath to Congress about?

And since when is justice relative? If a rapist is convicted today, does it mean nothing because a car thief is still walking the streets?

]]> By: Gwedd http://informedspeculation.com/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/comment-page-1/#comment-254079 Gwedd Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:21:48 +0000 http://decision08.net/2007/03/06/and-the-winner-so-far/#comment-254079 Comrades, Real justice in this case wasn't served today, nor will it be served tomorrow. Real, palpable, justice will only be served when Joe Wilson is indicted, sent to trial, convicted, and sent to prison for lying under oath to Congress. Hopefully, the President will issue Mr. Libby a pardon, although it better accompany a pardon for the two Border Patrol Agents doing time for doing their job. Respects, Comrades,

Real justice in this case wasn’t served today, nor will it be served tomorrow. Real, palpable, justice will only be served when Joe Wilson is indicted, sent to trial, convicted, and sent to prison for lying under oath to Congress.

Hopefully, the President will issue Mr. Libby a pardon, although it better accompany a pardon for the two Border Patrol Agents doing time for doing their job.

Respects,

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