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		<title>By: mikebdot</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-346308</link>
		<dc:creator>mikebdot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: So, let&#039;s make this clear.  Your position is that when a reporter asks a question of any public figure, it is that public figure&#039;s duty to answer the question directly?  At least, that&#039;s what this sounds like:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me leave you guys with one more thought re: Hillary. It is certainly not Hillary’s obligation to seek out every nutjob on the left and apologize for his conduct. That’s ridiculous on the face of it. It’s quite another matter, though, when the public and major news media outlets are actively seeking Hillary’s view as in the case of the MoveOn ad. She was asked directly about it, in other words, and rather than do the honorable thing and condemn the slur on the man leading our war efforts in the theater, she resorted to a lame formulation of her past support and declined to criticize the ad or the organization that placed it.

When the question has been put to you bluntly, and you pass, you fail, if you get my drift…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, the ONLY honorable thing to do is xxx.  When all else fails, make your argument contain certitude and you win!  Hooray.  

Seriously though, just because a news organization asks a question doesn&#039;t mean it needs to be dignified with a response.  News organizations create drama, especially when it involves other news organizations.  It&#039;s always been like this.  One paper comments on another paper and then all of that paper&#039;s &quot;enemies&quot; pick it up and out burps a disgusting story that doesn&#039;t affect anyone in any way.  All it does it put all of this in the public&#039;s eye, when most of them don&#039;t read the NYT anyway and now village idiots everywhere are saying &quot;yeah, Petraeus sucks!&quot;

Yea America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: So, let&#8217;s make this clear.  Your position is that when a reporter asks a question of any public figure, it is that public figure&#8217;s duty to answer the question directly?  At least, that&#8217;s what this sounds like:</p>
<blockquote><p>Let me leave you guys with one more thought re: Hillary. It is certainly not Hillary’s obligation to seek out every nutjob on the left and apologize for his conduct. That’s ridiculous on the face of it. It’s quite another matter, though, when the public and major news media outlets are actively seeking Hillary’s view as in the case of the MoveOn ad. She was asked directly about it, in other words, and rather than do the honorable thing and condemn the slur on the man leading our war efforts in the theater, she resorted to a lame formulation of her past support and declined to criticize the ad or the organization that placed it.</p>
<p>When the question has been put to you bluntly, and you pass, you fail, if you get my drift…</p></blockquote>
<p>So, the ONLY honorable thing to do is xxx.  When all else fails, make your argument contain certitude and you win!  Hooray.  </p>
<p>Seriously though, just because a news organization asks a question doesn&#8217;t mean it needs to be dignified with a response.  News organizations create drama, especially when it involves other news organizations.  It&#8217;s always been like this.  One paper comments on another paper and then all of that paper&#8217;s &#8220;enemies&#8221; pick it up and out burps a disgusting story that doesn&#8217;t affect anyone in any way.  All it does it put all of this in the public&#8217;s eye, when most of them don&#8217;t read the NYT anyway and now village idiots everywhere are saying &#8220;yeah, Petraeus sucks!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yea America!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-345987</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, here&#039;s that Jon Stewart video link
http://jameshudnall.com/blog.php/site/the_first_robot_american/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, here&#8217;s that Jon Stewart video link<br />
<a href="http://jameshudnall.com/blog.php/site/the_first_robot_american/" rel="nofollow">http://jameshudnall.com/blog.php/site/the_first_robot_american/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-344657</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[inner voice: &#039;This is your cue to laugh, 3. 2. 1.&#039;]  
Haha, Fargus, now you&#039;re cracking me up :D [/cackling]

&lt;em&gt;H/T Jon Stewart&lt;/em&gt;

You may contact Mary Fallin, my Congresswoman, whom I met last week btw at one of her VRWC meeting.  And she&#039;s definitely against the DREAM act and HillaryCare 1.0 and HillaryCare 2.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[inner voice: 'This is your cue to laugh, 3. 2. 1.']<br />
Haha, Fargus, now you&#8217;re cracking me up <img src='http://informedspeculation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  [/cackling]</p>
<p><em>H/T Jon Stewart</em></p>
<p>You may contact Mary Fallin, my Congresswoman, whom I met last week btw at one of her VRWC meeting.  And she&#8217;s definitely against the DREAM act and HillaryCare 1.0 and HillaryCare 2.0</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Bonneville</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-344597</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Bonneville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This conversation gets sillier by the second.  Interestingly, though, by definition 1a, &quot;To give aid... to an enemy of,&quot; I think we&#039;ll probably have to count the President as a traitor.  It&#039;s hard to think of a lot of ways to give more aid to our so-called enemies (them durty turrurrists) than the Iraq War.  Of course, that also makes most of the Senate and a good bit of the House traitors.  Not that that&#039;s the least bit surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This conversation gets sillier by the second.  Interestingly, though, by definition 1a, &#8220;To give aid&#8230; to an enemy of,&#8221; I think we&#8217;ll probably have to count the President as a traitor.  It&#8217;s hard to think of a lot of ways to give more aid to our so-called enemies (them durty turrurrists) than the Iraq War.  Of course, that also makes most of the Senate and a good bit of the House traitors.  Not that that&#8217;s the least bit surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: Fargus</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-344588</link>
		<dc:creator>Fargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you saying Hilary&#039;s a traitor?  How dare you Andy?  That&#039;s beyond the pale.  I&#039;m going to write your Congressman and demand he decry your remarks here about a sitting US Senator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying Hilary&#8217;s a traitor?  How dare you Andy?  That&#8217;s beyond the pale.  I&#8217;m going to write your Congressman and demand he decry your remarks here about a sitting US Senator.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-344527</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks the ordering of homonyms is ranked by common/popular usage.  IOW, ask 99% of the people to define &quot;Betray&quot; and they&#039;d pick #1 and so on.  #s 2,3 &amp; 6 come to mind less readily or not at all.  

It is a stretch for those carrying water for MoveOn to insist that they meant #6 in referring to Petraeus.  OK, fine!  Now, I&#039;m intrigued by the definition of the fourth use of &quot;Betray&quot;.  

What are we to make of the sudden spate of laughing fits as Hillary made the talk-show rounds.  What ideas are being betrayed here?

I&#039;m just saying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks the ordering of homonyms is ranked by common/popular usage.  IOW, ask 99% of the people to define &#8220;Betray&#8221; and they&#8217;d pick #1 and so on.  #s 2,3 &amp; 6 come to mind less readily or not at all.  </p>
<p>It is a stretch for those carrying water for MoveOn to insist that they meant #6 in referring to Petraeus.  OK, fine!  Now, I&#8217;m intrigued by the definition of the fourth use of &#8220;Betray&#8221;.  </p>
<p>What are we to make of the sudden spate of laughing fits as Hillary made the talk-show rounds.  What ideas are being betrayed here?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fargus</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-344492</link>
		<dc:creator>Fargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.  Read 2, also.  I don&#039;t know if you know this (I would have assumed you did, but your comments show otherwise), but words sometimes have more than one definition.  Read 3.  Read 6.  Betray != Treason, as you&#039;d have it.  This is embarrassing for me?  You&#039;re the one who has to abandon knowledge of homonyms to bolster his position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  Read 2, also.  I don&#8217;t know if you know this (I would have assumed you did, but your comments show otherwise), but words sometimes have more than one definition.  Read 3.  Read 6.  Betray != Treason, as you&#8217;d have it.  This is embarrassing for me?  You&#8217;re the one who has to abandon knowledge of homonyms to bolster his position.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-344483</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BETRAY:

tr.v., -trayed, -tray·ing, -trays.

   1.
         a. To give aid or information to an enemy of; commit treason against: betray one&#039;s country.
         b. To deliver into the hands of an enemy in violation of a trust or allegiance: betrayed Christ to the Romans.
   2. To be false or disloyal to: betrayed their cause; betray one&#039;s better nature.
   3. To divulge in a breach of confidence: betray a secret.
   4. To make known unintentionally: Her hollow laugh betrayed her contempt for the idea.
   5. To reveal against one&#039;s desire or will.
   6. To lead astray; deceive. See synonyms at deceive.

General Petraeus = General &quot;Betray Us&quot;

Any questions?

Fargus, truly, you&#039;re way off base here...read 1(a) above again very closely, then Google the MoveOn ad, then see if you can connect the dots...you&#039;re a smart person, and I&#039;m finding this exercise a bit humiliating...for you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BETRAY:</p>
<p>tr.v., -trayed, -tray·ing, -trays.</p>
<p>   1.<br />
         a. To give aid or information to an enemy of; commit treason against: betray one&#8217;s country.<br />
         b. To deliver into the hands of an enemy in violation of a trust or allegiance: betrayed Christ to the Romans.<br />
   2. To be false or disloyal to: betrayed their cause; betray one&#8217;s better nature.<br />
   3. To divulge in a breach of confidence: betray a secret.<br />
   4. To make known unintentionally: Her hollow laugh betrayed her contempt for the idea.<br />
   5. To reveal against one&#8217;s desire or will.<br />
   6. To lead astray; deceive. See synonyms at deceive.</p>
<p>General Petraeus = General &#8220;Betray Us&#8221;</p>
<p>Any questions?</p>
<p>Fargus, truly, you&#8217;re way off base here&#8230;read 1(a) above again very closely, then Google the MoveOn ad, then see if you can connect the dots&#8230;you&#8217;re a smart person, and I&#8217;m finding this exercise a bit humiliating&#8230;for you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-344454</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh.  Now I&#039;m a troll ;)  Trolling since Mark began blogging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh.  Now I&#8217;m a troll <img src='http://informedspeculation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Trolling since Mark began blogging.</p>
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		<title>By: Fargus</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2007/09/24/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-344453</link>
		<dc:creator>Fargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The treason angle is your frame, Mark.  I understand that you need to keep parroting it to make it seem more legitimate, but that doesn&#039;t make it more true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The treason angle is your frame, Mark.  I understand that you need to keep parroting it to make it seem more legitimate, but that doesn&#8217;t make it more true.</p>
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