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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2008/02/21/sorry-for-the-access-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-458890</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading it again, I still stand by my statement.  The link you reference was not a follow-up at all.  It was coverage of the presser McCain held the next morning.  They report the news, which was that McCain denied the romantic relationship.  The editor says that the article speaks for it self - which it does.

The article which is titled &quot;For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk,&quot; (nothing about sex) starts off as you describe.  However the fifth paragraph begins, &quot;But the concerns about Mr. McCain’s relationship with Ms. Iseman underscored an enduring paradox of his post-Keating career.&quot; It then goes on for 29 paragraphs about McCain&#039;s history of taking positions on government ethics before returning to the relationship with Iseman, and explaining, &quot;Mr. McCain’s confidence in his ability to distinguish personal friendships from compromising connections was at the center of questions advisers raised about Ms. Iseman.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading it again, I still stand by my statement.  The link you reference was not a follow-up at all.  It was coverage of the presser McCain held the next morning.  They report the news, which was that McCain denied the romantic relationship.  The editor says that the article speaks for it self &#8211; which it does.</p>
<p>The article which is titled &#8220;For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk,&#8221; (nothing about sex) starts off as you describe.  However the fifth paragraph begins, &#8220;But the concerns about Mr. McCain’s relationship with Ms. Iseman underscored an enduring paradox of his post-Keating career.&#8221; It then goes on for 29 paragraphs about McCain&#8217;s history of taking positions on government ethics before returning to the relationship with Iseman, and explaining, &#8220;Mr. McCain’s confidence in his ability to distinguish personal friendships from compromising connections was at the center of questions advisers raised about Ms. Iseman.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2008/02/21/sorry-for-the-access-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-458712</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott-

That might be a nice spin for the Times to go with.  However, the editors of the New York Times didn&#039;t go that way.


I refer you to the follow up piece they published: 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21cnd-mccain.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin


Lead sentence: &quot;Senator John McCain said Thursday that an article in The New York Times about his close ties to a woman lobbyist was untrue, that he had no romantic relationship with the lobbyist and that he had no confrontations in 1999 with worried staff members who told him to stay away from her.&quot;

The author make no attempt to claim that Senator McCain misunderstood the main point of the original article, but appears to agree that the affair was the point.

For that matter, go back to the original article: 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html

After the teaser of first paragraph; the second paragraph refers to the affair which was anonymously alleged to have been suspected of occurring; the third paragraph refers to the letters to the FCC -- with no implication that they were improper, but only that anonymous aides may have been worried that these letters might lead others to stumble on the alleged appearance of an affair; the fourth paragraph contains the requisite denials of the affair...

Can you be clearer on what you thought the writers&#039; focus was, and why you think they buried the &quot;focus&quot; of their story under the fold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott-</p>
<p>That might be a nice spin for the Times to go with.  However, the editors of the New York Times didn&#8217;t go that way.</p>
<p>I refer you to the follow up piece they published:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21cnd-mccain.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21cnd-mccain.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin</a></p>
<p>Lead sentence: &#8220;Senator John McCain said Thursday that an article in The New York Times about his close ties to a woman lobbyist was untrue, that he had no romantic relationship with the lobbyist and that he had no confrontations in 1999 with worried staff members who told him to stay away from her.&#8221;</p>
<p>The author make no attempt to claim that Senator McCain misunderstood the main point of the original article, but appears to agree that the affair was the point.</p>
<p>For that matter, go back to the original article:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html</a></p>
<p>After the teaser of first paragraph; the second paragraph refers to the affair which was anonymously alleged to have been suspected of occurring; the third paragraph refers to the letters to the FCC &#8212; with no implication that they were improper, but only that anonymous aides may have been worried that these letters might lead others to stumble on the alleged appearance of an affair; the fourth paragraph contains the requisite denials of the affair&#8230;</p>
<p>Can you be clearer on what you thought the writers&#8217; focus was, and why you think they buried the &#8220;focus&#8221; of their story under the fold?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://informedspeculation.com/2008/02/21/sorry-for-the-access-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-458679</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I understand the focus of the story was that McCain poses as a reformer and yet sometimes contradicts that pose with his actions.  That&#039;s what makes the story so laughable - it played up a sex angle to punch up what was an extraordinarily thin story and placed it on page one, despite the fact that the events covered are not news and occurred eight years ago.  That&#039;s what makes the &lt;em&gt;Times&lt;/em&gt; look so bad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I understand the focus of the story was that McCain poses as a reformer and yet sometimes contradicts that pose with his actions.  That&#8217;s what makes the story so laughable &#8211; it played up a sex angle to punch up what was an extraordinarily thin story and placed it on page one, despite the fact that the events covered are not news and occurred eight years ago.  That&#8217;s what makes the <em>Times</em> look so bad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all so funny.  Let&#039;s recap: most seem to acknowledge that in Mark&#039;s words, &quot;the story got play because of the sex angle.&quot;  (with an implied recognition that it wasn&#039;t run for the sex angle) Then you all rail against the Times for running a sex story and ignore the writers&#039; focus of the story.  Let&#039;s move on folks, nothing to see here. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all so funny.  Let&#8217;s recap: most seem to acknowledge that in Mark&#8217;s words, &#8220;the story got play because of the sex angle.&#8221;  (with an implied recognition that it wasn&#8217;t run for the sex angle) Then you all rail against the Times for running a sex story and ignore the writers&#8217; focus of the story.  Let&#8217;s move on folks, nothing to see here. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After all, if the big scoop is McCain says his staff met with the guy and the guy says he met with McCain directly - well, that&#039;s hardly earth-shattering.  The more relevant question is did McCain improperly use his office - and I&#039;ve seen no smoking gun there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all, if the big scoop is McCain says his staff met with the guy and the guy says he met with McCain directly &#8211; well, that&#8217;s hardly earth-shattering.  The more relevant question is did McCain improperly use his office &#8211; and I&#8217;ve seen no smoking gun there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Distler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacques Distler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, this all seems like pretty minor stuff. Hence I&#039;m surprised by the McCain Campaign&#039;s panicky reaction. Perhaps there&#039;s more to this story than meets the eye.

Or perhaps not.

In the latter case, this story will, as you say, be forgotten in a week. In the former case, ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said, this all seems like pretty minor stuff. Hence I&#8217;m surprised by the McCain Campaign&#8217;s panicky reaction. Perhaps there&#8217;s more to this story than meets the eye.</p>
<p>Or perhaps not.</p>
<p>In the latter case, this story will, as you say, be forgotten in a week. In the former case, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques, it does indeed appear that McCain got caught in a contradiction, or if you prefer, lie, about meeting with Paxson, but I disagree on the consequences.  The story got play because of the sex angle, not the &#039;cozy with lobbyist&#039; angle.  Take away the sex, and all you&#039;ve got is Obama&#039;s Rezco scandal (and Obama was recently caught in his own little &#039;misremembrance&#039; there).  It may be a indication of how pervasive potential corruption is, but it&#039;s not going to catch on with the public.  This story doesn&#039;t last until next weekend, in my view, minus some REALLY good uncovered dirt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques, it does indeed appear that McCain got caught in a contradiction, or if you prefer, lie, about meeting with Paxson, but I disagree on the consequences.  The story got play because of the sex angle, not the &#8216;cozy with lobbyist&#8217; angle.  Take away the sex, and all you&#8217;ve got is Obama&#8217;s Rezco scandal (and Obama was recently caught in his own little &#8216;misremembrance&#8217; there).  It may be a indication of how pervasive potential corruption is, but it&#8217;s not going to catch on with the public.  This story doesn&#8217;t last until next weekend, in my view, minus some REALLY good uncovered dirt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Distler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacques Distler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops! 2 corrections:

1) It&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Lowell&lt;/em&gt;Paxson, not &quot;Bill&quot;.

2) The link is &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/22/AR2008022202634.html?hpid=topnews&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops! 2 corrections:</p>
<p>1) It&#8217;s <em>Lowell</em>Paxson, not &#8220;Bill&#8221;.</p>
<p>2) The link is <a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/22/AR2008022202634.html?hpid=topnews' rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Distler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacques Distler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, please, Aaron. I cited Greenwald out of the convenience, Citing all the original sources will probably get this comment trapped in Mark&#039;s spam filter. But if you can&#039;t bear dirtying yourself by clicking through Greenwald&#039;s post ...

&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2008/02/21/mccain_pressed_fcc_in_case_involving_major_contributor/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FCC Chairman&#039;s scathing response&lt;/a&gt; to McCain&#039;s intervention on behalf of Paxson.

&lt;a href=&#039;http://thepage.time.com/mccain-release-on-new-york-times-story/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McCain&#039;s categorical denial&lt;/a&gt; the he met with Paxson before interceding with the FCC.

&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.newsweek.com/id/114505&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Newsweek uncovers McCain&#039;s 2002 sworn deposition&lt;/a&gt; in which he admits to having met with Paxson.

&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.newsweek.com/id/114505/page/2&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The McCain Campaign issues another denial&lt;/a&gt;: when McCain testified that &quot;I&quot; met with Paxson, he meant &quot;the Royal &#039;I&#039;&quot; --- his staff met with Paxson.

&lt;a&gt;Bill Paxson confirms&lt;/a&gt; that he met with McCain, &lt;strong&gt;personally&lt;/strong&gt;.

McCain&#039;s first categorical denial could have been the result of mere forgetfulness. When confronted with his previous sworn deposition, the McCain campaign &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; have said, &quot;Whoops! Yes, the Senator forgot about that meeting.&quot;  Instead, they doubled-down and lied about the meaning of McCain&#039;s deposition.

The only interpretation of that move is that they are in full panic mode. Which is why I think this story may have some legs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, please, Aaron. I cited Greenwald out of the convenience, Citing all the original sources will probably get this comment trapped in Mark&#8217;s spam filter. But if you can&#8217;t bear dirtying yourself by clicking through Greenwald&#8217;s post &#8230;</p>
<p><a href='http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2008/02/21/mccain_pressed_fcc_in_case_involving_major_contributor/' rel="nofollow">FCC Chairman&#8217;s scathing response</a> to McCain&#8217;s intervention on behalf of Paxson.</p>
<p><a href='http://thepage.time.com/mccain-release-on-new-york-times-story/' rel="nofollow">McCain&#8217;s categorical denial</a> the he met with Paxson before interceding with the FCC.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.newsweek.com/id/114505' rel="nofollow">Newsweek uncovers McCain&#8217;s 2002 sworn deposition</a> in which he admits to having met with Paxson.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.newsweek.com/id/114505/page/2' rel="nofollow">The McCain Campaign issues another denial</a>: when McCain testified that &#8220;I&#8221; met with Paxson, he meant &#8220;the Royal &#8216;I&#8217;&#8221; &#8212; his staff met with Paxson.</p>
<p><a>Bill Paxson confirms</a> that he met with McCain, <strong>personally</strong>.</p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s first categorical denial could have been the result of mere forgetfulness. When confronted with his previous sworn deposition, the McCain campaign <em>could</em> have said, &#8220;Whoops! Yes, the Senator forgot about that meeting.&#8221;  Instead, they doubled-down and lied about the meaning of McCain&#8217;s deposition.</p>
<p>The only interpretation of that move is that they are in full panic mode. Which is why I think this story may have some legs.</p>
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		<title>By: Fargus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just attack the source and not what it&#039;s saying and you&#039;ll be A-OK, Aaron.  Wait, I guess that&#039;s what y&#039;all are doing about the &lt;i&gt;Times&lt;/i&gt; piece in the first place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just attack the source and not what it&#8217;s saying and you&#8217;ll be A-OK, Aaron.  Wait, I guess that&#8217;s what y&#8217;all are doing about the <i>Times</i> piece in the first place!</p>
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