Comments on: The Biden Bounce, Part Deux

By: Bob from Ohio

Bob from Ohio — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:50:36 +0000

Do I seriously have to vote for Bob Barr?

An excellent idea for you. Its the right thing to do.

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:25:28 +0000

Started a thread for you…

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:22:55 +0000

I don’t know if I can force myself to watch Warner’s speech…The AP said the Democrats were on the attack against McCain all day, wave after wave (much earlier today, well before Warner)…were they wrong? I’m asking honestly, I didn’t turn it on until just now…

By: Ryan

Ryan — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:18:05 +0000

Sorry for the posting flood, but I am utterly disgusted with the Democrats right now and looking to vent spleen. I think the current state of the Republican Party is immoral and wicked and wrong in virtually every way, but the reason I refuse to call myself a Democrat is I still hate them for their cowardice.

Do I seriously have to vote for Bob Barr?

By: Ryan

Ryan — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:16:37 +0000

I suggest you watch Warner’s speech and compare it to the keynote Giuliani is going to deliver next week. I can predict right now that Giuliani will do far more heavy lifting for McCain and will run rhetorical circles around Warner.

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:14:59 +0000

I was waiting…I didn’t watch Warner’s speech, but I will be watching Hillary…

By: Ryan

Ryan — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:10:36 +0000

There’s no convention thread, so I’m posting here.

This convention is a disaster so far. If the Democrats continue refusing to go on the attack, they are going to lose this election badly. Mark Warner’s keynote was boring awful pablum. You can’t beat Republicans by pretending they don’t exist.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:12:01 +0000

Fargus, the Gallup Poll compared Biden's impact on likelihood to vote with the last 3 zillion candidates, give or take a zillion, and only Cheney and Quayle did worse. It's not like there's no context here to say the public is less than thrilled with this choice. But if you still say there's no story, how about today's Gallup poll, which actually shows McCain ahead(!) on the eve of the Democratic convention for the first time since Obama clinched the nomination:

Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Aug. 23-25, the first three-day period falling entirely after Obama's Saturday morning vice presidential announcement, shows 46% of national registered voters backing John McCain and 44% supporting Obama, not appreciably different from the previous week's standing for both candidates. This is the first time since Obama clinched the nomination in early June, though, that McCain has held any kind of advantage over Obama in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

By: Bob from Ohio

Bob from Ohio — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:19:01 +0000

Polls even now are still worthless. Its still not Labor Day.

Starting in mid September, after the conventions are done and the “bounces” settle down, they become somewhat useful. As a guide to trends.

Events can still upset trends.

Look at 2000 and the late DUI leak. The polls pointed to a comfortable Bush win and we see how that worked out.

Or 1980, Carter was doing ok in the polls until Reagan did so well in the one debate.

By: Jacques Distler

Jacques Distler — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:55:26 +0000

As far as Vice Presidents go, are we really expected to believe this notion that any vice presidential picks make people more likely to vote for a candidate? Maybe less likely, to be sure, but more likely?

I dunno, Fargus.

Back in 2000, I recall people saying, “Yeah, sure, Bush is kinda inexperienced, and maybe he’s a bit of a lightweight. But with the steady, experienced, hand of Dick Cheney backing him up, everything will be just fine.” I don’t know how many people were, in fact, reassured by the choice of Cheney, but that was an oft-cited meme at the time. And in a close election …

I think that VP choice worked out quite well, don’t you?